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Jan 26, 2023 11:43:43   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
We can design and produce any kind of photo you want.
No need to sort through thousands of photos.

Hmmmm....

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Jan 26, 2023 11:59:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
kenArchi wrote:
We can design and produce any kind of photo you want.
No need to sort through thousands of photos.

Hmmmm....


Who is "We"?

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Jan 26, 2023 12:47:53   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Hypothetical

Can it be done?

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Jan 26, 2023 17:54:20   #
MDI Mainer
 
Actually, Getty Images is suing at least one of the AI image program companies for copyright infringement based on the use of Getty image scans in the software database.

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Jan 26, 2023 19:46:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Actually, Getty Images is suing at least one of the AI image program companies for copyright infringement based on the use of Getty image scans in the software database.



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Jan 26, 2023 21:01:14   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
So, you say I may be able to sue if any of my images are used?.

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Jan 26, 2023 21:31:28   #
MDI Mainer
 
kenArchi wrote:
So, you say I may be able to sue if any of my images are used?.


That entirely depends on how deep your pockets are.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/17/23558516/ai-art-copyright-stable-diffusion-getty-images-lawsuit

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Jan 27, 2023 01:06:17   #
User ID
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
Actually, Getty Images is suing at least one of the AI image program companies for copyright infringement based on the use of Getty image scans in the software database.

Bet they lose based on Fair Use.

In a very busy collage of very many small images, Fair Use applies. Now extrapolate that out a gazillion fold.

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Jan 27, 2023 07:38:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
kenArchi wrote:
We can design and produce any kind of photo you want.
No need to sort through thousands of photos.

Hmmmm....


Well, yes and no. It's hard enough to find the right image by scrolling through hundreds online. Having AI create exactly what you want will be a long way in the future.

EDIT: Image generators - https://www.fotor.com/blog/best-ai-image-generators/

"man and dog by stream" - https://www.fotor.com/features/ai-image-generator/

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Jan 27, 2023 08:15:51   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
kenArchi wrote:
Hypothetical

Can it be done?


Yes, kinda

Watch this channel https://youtube.com/@OlivioSarikas

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Jan 27, 2023 13:04:28   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
Bet they lose based on Fair Use.

In a very busy collage of very many small images, Fair Use applies. Now extrapolate that out a gazillion fold.


But if they’re using those images to generate stock images for commercial use it wouldn’t apply.

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Jan 27, 2023 14:06:01   #
tgreenhaw
 
Good luck proving it.

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Jan 27, 2023 14:23:50   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
User ID wrote:
Bet they lose based on Fair Use.

In a very busy collage of very many small images, Fair Use applies. Now extrapolate that out a gazillion fold.


Did you ever read the EULA you agree once you sign up to cloud service?

Or the "updated versions" of it, you get from time to time?

AI is by no way a collage of images, nor use the to create new ones... .

Google, Adobe and others use the images to train the AI, then the AI creates new images or or the smart filters of Photoshop, etc.

I'm not saying that they will loose or win the lawsuit... That will depend on the skills and competence of the lawyers and the justice

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Jan 27, 2023 15:40:07   #
MDI Mainer
 
Since AI art is a new thing, there really is no legal precedent that would say using scanned images from others is (or is not) "fair use."

There is a recognized "de minimis" defense but the question would be whether that's applicable to the scanned images individually, or to the totality of all the images scanned into the database.

At any rate this will be an interesting legal dispute.

https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/four-factors/

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Jan 27, 2023 16:15:07   #
User ID
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
But if they’re using those images to generate stock images for commercial use it wouldn’t apply.

Stock images would cease. Images would be uniquely custom made to order from a humongous data pool. The entire Getty is barely a needle in a whole hayfield of data. How much Getty data might really contribute to any given AI image ? None that could ever be found. Easier to find a doppleganger Elvis on some exoplanet in another galaxy where his records spin counter clockwise.

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