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Jan 25, 2023 13:24:00   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
What do you guys think of this?
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_--XrNJGmY

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Jan 25, 2023 14:26:36   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Wallen wrote:
What do you guys think of this?
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_--XrNJGmY


Very interesting.

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Jan 25, 2023 21:51:26   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Instant HDR

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Jan 26, 2023 05:53:11   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
The Pixel War is winding down and over for some... now the DR war begins.

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Jan 26, 2023 07:26:28   #
ELNikkor
 
Different shutter speeds for different areas of the frame in a single exposure, zoiks!

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Jan 26, 2023 07:36:51   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Different shutter speeds for different areas of the frame in a single exposure, zoiks!

More or less just a software workaround, and not really an improvement in physical capability of the sensor.

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Jan 26, 2023 07:37:40   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
dpullum wrote:
The Pixel War is winding down and over for some... now the DR war begins.

Manufacturers are always looking for something to drum about.

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Jan 26, 2023 08:02:12   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Wallen wrote:
What do you guys think of this?
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_--XrNJGmY


He is talking about turning individual pixels on and off -- isn't that how QLED TVs work to attain their excellent black backgrounds and black color? They turn the pixels off so the LEDs are not producing any light, thus no image. If this is the way it will work, the technology has been around for about three years in a commercial application. Now, it just needs to shrink that 85" TV down to sensor size!

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Jan 26, 2023 13:37:35   #
tgreenhaw
 
Currently only available for a 12 MP security 1 inch sensor, but interesting. I wonder if it filter to the kind of cameras we use or if it will be like near field photography that never really went mainstream.

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Jan 26, 2023 14:11:54   #
MJPerini
 
As @Wallen said above, this is more of a control improvement than an increase in dynamic range.
It is still interesting, and will still 'get more DR' out of any sensor it is applied to.
It is not pixel level but 700+ areas of a 12 MP sensor.
None the less it is a step in the right direction and potential progress.
An interesting development for special application cameras at this point (especially security/ surveillance cameras)
That is a growing and profitable area for Canon
I think the real breakthrough is deeper pixel wells, which hasn't been easy to crack

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Jan 26, 2023 16:28:30   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Wallen wrote:
What do you guys think of this?
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_--XrNJGmY


I think Tony explained it well if even I can understand it.

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Jan 26, 2023 16:37:05   #
User ID
 
Wallen wrote:
What do you guys think of this?
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_--XrNJGmY

I think its a youtube video. That is all.

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Jan 27, 2023 01:34:40   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Bridges wrote:
He is talking about turning individual pixels on and off -- isn't that how QLED TVs work to attain their excellent black backgrounds and black color? They turn the pixels off so the LEDs are not producing any light, thus no image. If this is the way it will work, the technology has been around for about three years in a commercial application. Now, it just needs to shrink that 85" TV down to sensor size!


Pretty much so but the other way around.
"On" time and brightness signals are sent to pixels in the monitor to give light, whereas it is only "on" time signals that is sent to the sensor pixel to limit the light/brightness it receives.

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Jan 27, 2023 01:40:16   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
Currently only available for a 12 MP security 1 inch sensor, but interesting. I wonder if it filter to the kind of cameras we use or if it will be like near field photography that never really went mainstream.


I don't think it would go mainstream as it would be taking lower resolution and HDR images all the time. Unless the user plans on editing everything, or they provide a very good normalizing filter, it would always look unnatural.

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Jan 27, 2023 01:49:46   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
MJPerini wrote:
As @Wallen said above, this is more of a control improvement than an increase in dynamic range.
It is still interesting, and will still 'get more DR' out of any sensor it is applied to.
It is not pixel level but 700+ areas of a 12 MP sensor.
None the less it is a step in the right direction and potential progress.
An interesting development for special application cameras at this point (especially security/ surveillance cameras)
That is a growing and profitable area for Canon
I think the real breakthrough is deeper pixel wells, which hasn't been easy to crack
As @Wallen said above, this is more of a control i... (show quote)



Making a sensor sensitive to see in the dark will always overexpose when it is bright and making the sensor limited to expose for highlights will make them useless in the shadows. Being good at both ends that are opposing in nature is in my opinion impossible, unless they stack 2 sensors together, just like our own eyes with cones and rods.

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