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Jan 13, 2023 22:14:06   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
robertjerl wrote:
OK, the DOF is the same since you are at f/2.8 but the further you are from a subject the greater that DOF will be.
I can use one of my macro lenses on a table-top setup and the DOF is measured in mm but that same lenses pointed at a bird on the other side of the yard the DOF may now be over 1 foot and if I point it at a plane going over the DOF becomes enormous.

You were doing basketball players from the sidelines, so even on a diagonal the furthest you could be is less than 100 feet, and from the looks of your shots you were a lot less than that. So the F/2.8 at 200 mm might not even have enough DOF to include the entire body of the player. Example: The player is running with a long stride and the leading leg and body are in focus, but the trailing body and especiallly the foot are getting soft or totally out of focus. And the DOF may not even be enough for that much to be in focus.

I found a depth of field calculator and a 200 mm lens at f/2.8 has to be 40+ feet from the subject before the DOF exceeds 1 ft/12 inches.
https://www.photopills.com/calculators/dof-table
OK, the DOF is the same since you are at f/2.8 but... (show quote)


Thank you Robert, appreciate the comments.

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Jan 13, 2023 23:10:23   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
agillot wrote:
Actually , pic num 2 is better with background blurred , it concentrate on the main subject .At f 2.8 you cant have everything in focus .


Agree.

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Jan 14, 2023 02:02:33   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Jules, your work is just fine. The D4 was a great camera when I had it and my results mirrored yours...DOF is not a reality when you're wide open, and if you want to stop the action choices have to be made. It really made a difference when I moved to the D5, but I think this condition was still an issue.

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Jan 14, 2023 19:01:56   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Are you using AF Servo? That's Canon speak. I forget to put my camera on it and get pics like yours.

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Jan 14, 2023 19:31:33   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
AzPicLady wrote:
Are you using AF Servo? That's Canon speak. I forget to put my camera on it and get pics like yours.


a/c on a Nikon

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Jan 14, 2023 22:57:36   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Jules. I agree that the AF seems just a bit off, either because of your spot placement or in the system. The images at iso 10k are a mess and look like you have oversharpened or overcompressed in PP. If you must be at such high iso settings consider shooting Medium sized jpgs instead of fully large. I did that recently with an indoor grade school event on a D5 and it worked rather well.

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Jan 16, 2023 19:37:06   #
paulrnzpn Loc: New Zealand
 
robertjerl wrote:
Depth of Field limitation, no way around it. F/2.8 has a very shallow DOF, but indoors you can't really use f-stops with greater DOF unless you go with slow(er) shutter speeds, and then the moving players will blur.

It is just the way optics work.


Or increase the ISO.

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Jan 16, 2023 19:45:42   #
paulrnzpn Loc: New Zealand
 
Quite often I see long lenses advertised where the manufacturer says they are suitable for sports photography - a 400mm f/4 for example.
What I suggest is to go to f/4 or f/5.6 or so. You should be able to get a sharp photo with a longer exposure time than 1/1000sec in this situation, I'd say.
If you do find you need a faster shutter at the higher f-stop, increase the ISO some more. f/2.8 is a tricky f-stop when shooting subjects in motion.

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Mar 25, 2023 18:27:20   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Jules Karney wrote:
I am looking for insight on focusing with my D4 + 70-200 2.8. In shooting basketball when I focus on a player coming right at me one will be sharp and the rest not so much. 1/1000 at 2.8. Left to right much better, what am I missing?
Lens is calibrated, focus point 9 squares. I use bbf.
Looking forward to everyone's comments.

Jules
First shot without editing, 2nd shot went through Topaz Denoise and Sharpening


My guess is that your AF isn't set to servo auto focus. I'm also thinking the D4 doesn't have eye detection. I use Canon so I'm not sure. I'd would also change to manual mode, f7, 1200 sec shutter and auto ISO.

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