Why is saving my images taking so long? I recently upgraded to PS and have Ver 24.01. I have used PS for years. I am running Windows 10, latest upgrade. Previously when I would save a...

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

I recently upgraded to PS and have Ver 24.01. I have used PS for years. I am running Windows 10, latest upgrade.
Previously when I would save a layered TIFF (Ctrl, Shift, S) to my external hard drive it would take 15 seconds. These were very large files, often 400-600 MB. I would then flatten the layers and resave dropping the file size to 60-80 MB. That would take 5 seconds.
Now I save layered file (same size, same hard drive) it will take 20-30 seconds; that's acceptable. But when I flatten the image and save it can take 60-120 seconds and often it will hang up at 99% saved for minutes.
Again, same system, same camera (R5), same hard drive, same USB port connecting the hard drive. No other programs that I run (Topaz DeNoise AI, DXO Pure Raw, etc) show any slow down.
When I convert to JPEG for web, using Ctrl, Shift, Alt, S, the files save as fast as previously.

Any thoughts as to why the flat files save so slowly now and much slower than a much larger layered file?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Best action is to open a technical support chat with Adobe and ask their opinions, as they can remote in and watch & investigate.

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

CHG_CANON wrote:

Best action is to open a technical support chat with Adobe and ask their opinions, as they can remote in and watch & investigate.

Good thought. Will do that. I just timed it with a stopwatch. Layered file (550 MB) took 26 seconds; flattened file (107 MB) took 2 minutes, 10 seconds.

Alphabravo2020

Slightly related (not really, this post just made me think of it).

If I import photos into Lightroom Classic from, say, the desktop or a folder, and my android phone happens to be plugged into the Windows workstation for charging, LR hangs for a full minute after pressing "Import", presumably looking for access to the phone. No message is created and it eventually continues with the import. As soon as I unplug the phone it continues normally. I suppose there should be a setting that prevents Lr from trying to exhaustively catalog every drive when you ask for an import.

Again, not really related. Just FYI. (I don't even think Cntl, Shift, S is a function in Lr)

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

bajadreamer wrote:

I recently upgraded to PS and have Ver 24.01. I h... (show quote)

I know this may be pretty obvious, but. . . .
What does your "Task Manager - In Performance Mode" tell you during each process?
Did you remember to close Everything not required to support your process?

While in Win 10:
Use "Ctrl/Alt + Delete to open "Task Manager", then click on "Performance", then "Memory".
When you start to process an image this graph will show you if you have enough memory resources.
Don't forget to bring it back up immediately after you click on the "Save Image" during each process.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving and . . . .

Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

bajadreamer wrote:

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Do you have at least 20% and preferably 50% of your startup drive EMPTY and ready to perform memory swap operations? Are you saving to an ancient 5400 RPM spinning platter hard drive or a modern SSD? Do you have a scratch drive enabled?

Drives are the #1 bottleneck in most systems, followed by RAM. Be sure your system meets and preferably exceeds the minimum specifications for running Ps 24:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

Jimmy T wrote:

I know this may be pretty obvious, but. . . . br W... (show quote)

Thank you. Did check that and a maximum of 42% (13 MB of 32 MB RAM) was used including some other programs that were running.

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

burkphoto wrote:

Do you have at least 20% and preferably 50% of your startup drive EMPTY and ready to perform memory swap operations? Are you saving to an ancient 5400 RPM spinning platter hard drive or a modern SSD? Do you have a scratch drive enabled?

Drives are the #1 bottleneck in most systems, followed by RAM. Be sure your system meets and preferably exceeds the minimum specifications for running Ps 24:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html

Thank you. I did change the scratch disk from my app start up disc (an SSD) to my internal storage disc (a spinning disc) and it did make a difference-dropped from 2 minutes 10 sec to under 60 seconds. Still longer than it took before I updated PS, but much better.

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

burkphoto wrote:

Do you have at least 20% and preferably 50% of your startup drive EMPTY and ready to perform memory swap operations? Are you saving to an ancient 5400 RPM spinning platter hard drive or a modern SSD? Do you have a scratch drive enabled?

Drives are the #1 bottleneck in most systems, followed by RAM. Be sure your system meets and preferably exceeds the minimum specifications for running Ps 24:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html

Also, did delete some images from the start up drive. Did have 27% free, now have 40% free.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

bajadreamer wrote:

Thank you. I did change the scratch disk from my app start up disc (an SSD) to my internal storage disc (a spinning disc) and it did make a difference-dropped from 2 minutes 10 sec to under 60 seconds. Still longer than it took before I updated PS, but much better.

Using an SSD as a scratch disc should offer significant improvement. Even a relatively cheap Samsung T7 or equivalent will give you a good boost, especially if it is connected via USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4.

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

burkphoto wrote:

Using an SSD as a scratch disc should offer significant improvement. Even a relatively cheap Samsung T7 or equivalent will give you a good boost, especially if it is connected via USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4.

Thanks for the tips!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

bajadreamer wrote:

Thank you. I did change the scratch disk from my app start up disc (an SSD) to my internal storage disc (a spinning disc) and it did make a difference-dropped from 2 minutes 10 sec to under 60 seconds. Still longer than it took before I updated PS, but much better.

What did Adobe say?

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

CHG_CANON wrote:

What did Adobe say?

Will call after holiday. Adobe not answering now.

bajadreamer Loc: Baja California Sur

burkphoto wrote:

Using an SSD as a scratch disc should offer significant improvement. Even a relatively cheap Samsung T7 or equivalent will give you a good boost, especially if it is connected via USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3 or 4.

Did things you suggest and it improved most functions. But did not change much with saving flat files. Examples:
Layered TIFF file. 610 MB. 19 seconds
JPEG file. 9 MB. 4 seconds
Flattened TIFF. 101 MB. 135 seconds

Same image, same drives.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

bajadreamer wrote:

Did things you suggest and it improved most functions. But did not change much with saving flat files. Examples:
Layered TIFF file. 610 MB. 19 seconds
JPEG file. 9 MB. 4 seconds
Flattened TIFF. 101 MB. 135 seconds

Same image, same drives.

Adobe can probably help you speed it up some more.