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Nov 22, 2022 12:23:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I cloned a 500GB boot drive onto a 1TB drive - both M.2. I don't understand what Disk Management is showing me. The 1TB looks a 500GB drive. I right-clicked on the "Healthy Basic Data Partition" to extend it, but that action is "not supported."

Ideally, each drive would have the required data and a lot of empty, usable space. How can I deal with this mess?

I did this about a week ago with another computer, and I was eventually able to extend the new drive so it had 1TB available. I used Macrium Reflect in both cases.









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Nov 22, 2022 13:15:21   #
JoeBiker Loc: homebase: Houston, TX
 
The 474 GB partition can't be expanded because the other 3 partitions are in the way. Windows Built in Disk management (probably) can't handle that. You can repeat the imaging and expand the 474 GB partition in the configuration before you actually start the cloning operation.

Alternatively, you might try another partition program like AOMEI to see if it can move the other partitions before expanding the 474 GB, but I'm not sure that it can. Also, you don't want to be booted off of that drive while you try these operations.

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Nov 22, 2022 13:24:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JoeBiker wrote:
The 474 GB partition can't be expanded because the other 3 partitions are in the way. Windows Built in Disk management (probably) can't handle that. You can repeat the imaging and expand the 474 GB partition in the configuration before you actually start the cloning operation.

Alternatively, you might try another partition program like AOMEI to see if it can move the other partitions before expanding the 474 GB, but I'm not sure that it can. Also, you don't want to be booted off of that drive while you try these operations.
The 474 GB partition can't be expanded because the... (show quote)


Thanks.

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Nov 22, 2022 14:54:26   #
BebuLamar
 
Sometimes Macrium Reflect works well sometimes not. I have successfully clone a 500GB HD to a smaller 250GB SSD with Macrium. But the last time I did it it clone backward and destroyed all the data I want to clone. Worst yet the drive won't boot.

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Nov 22, 2022 15:24:26   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Sometimes Macrium Reflect works well sometimes not. I have successfully clone a 500GB HD to a smaller 250GB SSD with Macrium. But the last time I did it it clone backward and destroyed all the data I want to clone. Worst yet the drive won't boot.


Wonderful. I'd rather be using Windows 2 and have it working right than be using Win10 and hoping for the best.

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Nov 22, 2022 23:04:16   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Jerry, take a look at the UTube link I posted in the thread when you had a similar issue during your last clone using Macrium. I’ve had the same issue, and the easiest answer is just to format the clone and do it over. In Macrium, after you choose the volume(s) to be cloned and the target drive, the next two steps determine how the extra space will be used, and the default creates exactly the issue you have. Watch the UTube link and follow it step for step. If I can find it before you do, I’ll post it again - the correct step is easy to miss and somewhat counterintuitive.

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Nov 23, 2022 05:16:07   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
TriX wrote:
Jerry, take a look at the UTube link I posted in the thread when you had a similar issue during your last clone using Macrium. I’ve had the same issue, and the easiest answer is just to format the clone and do it over. In Macrium, after you choose the volume(s) to be cloned and the target drive, the next two steps determine how the extra space will be used, and the default creates exactly the issue you have. Watch the UTube link and follow it step for step. If I can find it before you do, I’ll post it again - the correct step is easy to miss and somewhat counterintuitive.
Jerry, take a look at the UTube link I posted in t... (show quote)


Thanks. I'll take a look.

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Nov 23, 2022 07:13:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I think I found the solution - via YouTube. I must select "Copy Partitions" and then "Shrink or extend to fill the target disk." I had just clicked on "Next." I can't imagine a situation in which a person would want to copy a small to a large but not have access to the remainder of the large.

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Nov 23, 2022 09:38:31   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I think I found the solution - via YouTube. I must select "Copy Partitions" and then "Shrink or extend to fill the target disk." I had just clicked on "Next." I can't imagine a situation in which a person would want to copy a small to a large but not have access to the remainder of the large.


Me either, they really ought to fix that.

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Nov 23, 2022 12:01:47   #
alvin3232 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Hello

Seems that since your configuration was set up with partitions that created the issue.
Drive 1, use the full drive (no need to partition it)
Add a second drive and use that as your data drive
No need for 3rd party software

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Nov 23, 2022 12:40:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
alvin3232 wrote:
Hello

Seems that since your configuration was set up with partitions that created the issue.
Drive 1, use the full drive (no need to partition it)
Add a second drive and use that as your data drive
No need for 3rd party software


It's working now, so I'm not going to mess with it. I could never understand why the C drive has to have so many partitions. At least I have access to all the unused space now. I'm cloning another one as I type this - 500GB to 1TB - but I'm using the Samsung software, and it's much more direct. Still, the C drive it's cloning has four partitions.

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Nov 23, 2022 13:01:59   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's working now, so I'm not going to mess with it. I could never understand why the C drive has to have so many partitions. At least I have access to all the unused space now. I'm cloning another one as I type this - 500GB to 1TB - but I'm using the Samsung software, and it's much more direct. Still, the C drive it's cloning has four partitions.


I’m not sure why either. It’s not uncommon for an OS or a manufacturer to add a partition for recovery data, but beyond that, unless you feel the need to segment a drive (into say aps and data), then no need. If there’s nothing useful in them, you can always CAREFULLY delete the unneeded ones, making SURE you only delete the unneeded one(s). Disk manager will allow you to delete or resize most partitions.

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Nov 23, 2022 13:18:27   #
alvin3232 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Jerry
So would it be better to just move all data of those partitions and just have 1 partition as you may run into this again down the road? (Just asking)

Alvin

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Nov 23, 2022 13:48:30   #
BebuLamar
 
TriX wrote:
I’m not sure why either. It’s not uncommon for an OS or a manufacturer to add a partition for recovery data, but beyond that, unless you feel the need to segment a drive (into say aps and data), then no need. If there’s nothing useful in them, you can always CAREFULLY delete the unneeded ones, making SURE you only delete the unneeded one(s). Disk manager will allow you to delete or resize most partitions.


I don't know either but I jus installed Windows 10 on a blank HDD. It partitioned my drive to 4 partitions. 3 of them are small and 1 large one. Only the large one is visible normally when you use the computer. So it's the Windows 10 things I don't know why.

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Nov 23, 2022 13:57:28   #
alvin3232 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Hello
I do not agree with that as I have installed Windows 11 and 7, 8, etc, and do not 4 partitions. I have been doing IT for some time now and I just do not see that. Normally one full partition and a minor part of the portion, yes. Now if it pre-installed and section of the partition is used for the OS and that's done by the manufacturer.


Alvin

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