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Nov 25, 2022 16:20:58   #
13 Loc: I am only responsible to what I say..not what
 
Wallen wrote:
Within reasons, I suppose so. It was actually in the Bible:
“Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.”
– Proverbs 13:24

Although its hard to understand that the same being be called forgiving for saying;
"If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out."
- Mark 9:47

Better be careful for supporting LGBTQ's. He's already Destroyed two cities because its filled with gays.
And why should I be condemmed to the earth because a woman, thousands of years ago, ate an apple?
Or sent to hell for not believing magnificent stories about someone I can't see, feel or hear?
Within reasons, I suppose so. It was actually in t... (show quote)


Right On!!!

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Nov 25, 2022 16:50:57   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Wallen wrote:
Within reasons, I suppose so. It was actually in the Bible:
“Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.”
– Proverbs 13:24

Although its hard to understand that the same being be called forgiving for saying;
"If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out."
- Mark 9:47

Better be careful for supporting LGBTQ's. He's already Destroyed two cities because its filled with gays.
And why should I be condemmed to the earth because a woman, thousands of years ago, ate an apple?
Or sent to hell for not believing magnificent stories about someone I can't see, feel or hear?
Within reasons, I suppose so. It was actually in t... (show quote)


Well, there’s plenty of violence in the Bible, but I’m not sure just because it’s Biblical make’s it good parenting - would you lay one of your children on an alter and prepare to slay him/her if you received a “divine” message to do so?

Not trying to start a potentially heated discussion on Biblical matters or choices in parenting, just stating that I personally have never struck my boys and personally don’t believe in it, and you’d be hard pressed to find nicer, more polite men, or ones that have a better relationship with both parents or better parents in their own rite.

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Nov 25, 2022 20:59:00   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
My personal experience raising my kids as a single parent and now helping Rayanna couple of grandkids is that kids don’t need the latest electronic gizmos, private schools or to be enrolled in every after school sports activity, but rather to eat supper together with the tv turned off, actually talk to the kids about their day, go for evening walks and teach them things whether it be tree identification, woodworking, or photography while on those walks. Little kids want to be involved in what you are doing no matter how exciting or mundane it may be. If you don’t include them when they are young, they will have no desire to help when they get older.

My kids didn’t get spanked all that often, not even the time I was standing in front of the barn and the boys peed on me from the barn loft door.

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Nov 25, 2022 21:38:58   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
My personal experience raising my kids as a single parent and now helping Rayanna couple of grandkids is that kids don’t need the latest electronic gizmos, private schools or to be enrolled in every after school sports activity, but rather to eat supper together with the tv turned off, actually talk to the kids about their day, go for evening walks and teach them things whether it be tree identification, woodworking, or photography while on those walks. Little kids want to be involved in what you are doing no matter how exciting or mundane it may be. If you don’t include them when they are young, they will have no desire to help when they get older.

My kids didn’t get spanked all that often, not even the time I was standing in front of the barn and the boys peed on me from the barn loft door.
My personal experience raising my kids as a single... (show quote)


Completely agree about being involved in you children’s lives. I’m happy to say that my youngest son adopted both photography and woodworking from our time together in the shop and in the darkroom. I gave him AA’s 3 classic books when he was 14, and today, he teaches photography and graphic design, and he’s a much better photographer than me. On the woodworking side, he’s currently building a Nakashima style table (with my help), from Black Walnut that he had milled from a fallen tree and has been air drying for ten years. I can’t resist adding an image of the table as we’re trial fitting the base pieces.



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Nov 26, 2022 01:25:02   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Great looking table! A couple of years back I make 3 kitchen tables out of cedar I had sawn up 40 year earlier. No that’s not a typo like “Rayanna” was on my previous post. It was supposed to be “raise a”. Damned auto spell!

I’m not familiar with the Nakashima style. I’d like to see some pix of the table when you’re done.

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Nov 26, 2022 06:17:11   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
TriX wrote:
Well, there’s plenty of violence in the Bible, but I’m not sure just because it’s Biblical make’s it good parenting - would you lay one of your children on an alter and prepare to slay him/her if you received a “divine” message to do so?

We are on the same page.
As I've said beforehand; in whatever way, bad behavior should be realized and never be unpunished.
Its not about hitting the child but making them realize there was a mistake and there is a consequence.
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Not trying to start a potentially heated discussion on Biblical matters or choices in parenting, just stating that I personally have never struck my boys and personally don’t believe in it, and you’d be hard pressed to find nicer, more polite men, or ones that have a better relationship with both parents or better parents in their own rite.

Neither do I. Just adding on to the previous point that corporal punishment is not bad, if done within reason and not abused. Because when abused, we begin to question the purpose, even if it was from the divine.

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Nov 28, 2022 09:25:40   #
Stephan G
 
Wallen wrote:
Neither do I. Just adding on to the previous point that corporal punishment is not bad, if done within reason and not abused. Because when abused, we begin to question the purpose, even if it was from the divine.


"From the divine".

There is no "divine", not even de Vino! The youngster asking about "where from are we", it is good to have an invisible entity like Jahweh to lay blame on. Child: Where do we come from? Mom/dad: we don't know. Go ask Jahweh!

I wish I could bring that quote up as it was in terms of the questions. But it worked and works for many even now. "Go ask god!" (Remember that young sun god of the Greeks? Yes, those Delphic Oracles!)

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Nov 28, 2022 23:11:19   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Stephan G wrote:
"From the divine".

There is no "divine", not even de Vino! The youngster asking about "where from are we", it is good to have an invisible entity like Jahweh to lay blame on. Child: Where do we come from? Mom/dad: we don't know. Go ask Jahweh!

I wish I could bring that quote up as it was in terms of the questions. But it worked and works for many even now. "Go ask god!" (Remember that young sun god of the Greeks? Yes, those Delphic Oracles!)
"From the divine". br br There is no ... (show quote)


To each his own, I guess. I believe in no religion but believe there is a source of life.
Whatever gods may be or may not, I can't really tell. I can only be thankful for the chance to exist even for a moment.

Man's knowledge and existence is but a grain of sand to the whole universe. And putting the blame or passing the responsibility to someone else, is one of our greatest failing. The hunger for power and control is another as well as the pretentiousness, of wanting to be important and special. And there is the fear of death and the want to live on forever.

I believe these failings created the gods, both ancient and new. Created religion, the community, created the kings, the nations, the politicians. Created the present selfishness and pride, the discontent, the woke, the LGBTQ's, just about every problem we see today.

Problems that can all go away if we just accept who we are and our part in the circle of life.

Perhaps the ancient gods knew what we will become today, that is why:
The Bible Gods, never wanted man to learn and be wise. Told them not to eat the tree of knowledge.
The Bible Gods never wanted man to live forever. Cast them out of Eden to never taste the tree of life.
The Bible God never wanted man to unify. Destroyed the tower of Babel and confused the languages.
But hey, Zeus came and said just believe me, and have everlasting life with God in his house up in heaven.

I do not believe in religion, but respect the belief of those who do. Especially if that belief makes them a good person. I do believe there is a source, a creator, a life giver, a divine.
Whatever gods may or may not be, I do not know for I seeketh in vain. It has been a hard life, confusing, painful and many times hopeless, still I am thankful and humbled by the chance to be.

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Nov 29, 2022 01:21:42   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim

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Nov 30, 2022 00:01:29   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
It may be that we'll only live once.
But if we do it right, once will be enough.

You can do anything, as long as you don't
hurt or destroy anything or anyone(including yourself)
unless it was meant to be.

(On humility)
It takes strength to go up a mountain,
and even more strength to go down.

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Nov 30, 2022 09:28:44   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
For the average adult, you might think you are pretty important. That is until you have kids. Then you realize there are things far more important than you.

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