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Nov 18, 2022 14:25:13   #
tmlakshmi
 
thanks. will look into it

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Nov 18, 2022 14:30:01   #
tmlakshmi
 
I have HP. Whenever I open 2022 PS I see the message that my computer does not have the required GPU. All adobe agent say the same thing when I contact them for problem with using PS, LR or LRC

Thanks fo rthe response

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Nov 18, 2022 15:06:05   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
delder wrote:
CAUTION!
Some of the larger high end graphic cards may overtax the Power Supply in a low-power desktop.

You can always check your Computer Manufacture options spec to see what they recommend and use this as a guide.


I have a decent computer I built. Rtx2080super 64kram ddr5 1tb nvme.m2 c drive with a 2tb hdd and a 2tb ssdsnd a 750 watt gold ps. I just upgraded my power supply to a Corsair 850 gold modular. I'm running an 10thGen I7 and I don't understand why or how but I gained an appreciable amount of speed and my benchmark increased by 11. In theory my old PS was enough but obviously I was wrong

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Nov 18, 2022 15:06:51   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
tmlakshmi wrote:
i use laptop. According to HP I cannot attach external GPU. Wondering whether I should buy a computer that costs nearly $1500. The present HP is practically new. what do you suggest?
Thanks


Most "Budget" Laptops use A graphics output integrated with the mobile processor
[as do entry level desktops]

While you can often add a graphics card to a desktop
[see thread]

The entry level laptops have no provisions or space for this.

Gaming laptops often have dedicated graphics card DESIGNED for that laptop, and a power supply large enough to support it. This often triples the cost!

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Nov 18, 2022 15:10:45   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
tmlakshmi wrote:
i use laptop. According to HP I cannot attach external GPU. Wondering whether I should buy a computer that costs nearly $1500. The present HP is practically new. what do you suggest?
Thanks

Unless your laptop has a separate graphics card that can be swapped for a faster one, you are SOL. That’s one of the downsides of laptops - typically not upgradable except for external storage.

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Nov 18, 2022 15:23:53   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
I have a decent computer I built. Rtx2080super 64kram ddr5 1tb nvme.m2 c drive with a 2tb hdd and a 2tb ssdsnd a 750 watt gold ps. I just upgraded my power supply to a Corsair 850 gold modular. I'm running an 10thGen I7 and I don't understand why or how but I gained an appreciable amount of speed and my benchmark increased by 11. In theory my old PS was enough but obviously I was wrong


My uneducated guess is that the old power supply caused some throttling that was reduced or eliminated by the new power supply! Thank you so much for sharing this observation!

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Nov 18, 2022 18:31:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
fredpnm wrote:
Well, now there is a new meaningful measure of merit - 2000GPU. I've never heard of that requirement for Photoshop and can't find any such reference from Adobe to 2000GPU.

Perhaps you should tell us what computer you currently have. PC? Mac? Tandy?

BTW Jesus uses CorelDraw...


Rolling on the floor laughing!

Seriously, here is are links to information the original poster needs. Review and update/upgrade/replace accordingly.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/system-requirements.html

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Nov 22, 2022 08:49:25   #
Harry02 Loc: Gardena, CA
 
tmlakshmi wrote:
I have a problem using Photoshop 2022 or 2023. Adobe requires at least 2000GPU. Can you suggest a computer like what Jesus in Photoshop uses?
Thanks


I is gonna re iterate this:
The Intel builtin "integrated" GPU is designed to run Windows, Office and Bing. No problems.
You want to do more, you'll need a new-ish GPU. Research!
You'll probably have to declare it in BIOS, and download the latest OEM drivers

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Nov 22, 2022 11:18:30   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Harry02 wrote:
I is gonna re iterate this:
The Intel builtin "integrated" GPU is designed to run Windows, Office and Bing. No problems.
You want to do more, you'll need a new-ish GPU. Research!
You'll probably have to declare it in BIOS, and download the latest OEM drivers


He has a laptop. Unless it has a separate replaceable graphics card, he is SOL, but he can run the old and new versions exc3pt some tools may not be enabled and others may have limited functionality and/or be slow.

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Nov 22, 2022 11:22:03   #
BebuLamar
 
The high requirements for GPU appears that software companies are starting to use the GPU for general purpose computing.

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Nov 22, 2022 11:40:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The high requirements for GPU appears that software companies are starting to use the GPU for general purpose computing.


If they build it, software developers will use it. Unfortunately, the system you buy now will still work in ten years, but you won't really want to use it. New software is not written for ten-year-old hardware. Heck, it isn't even written for seven-year-old hardware. Most developers want it run on three-year-old and newer hardware.

Because the generic PC market has to satisfy everyone from casual web surfers and those who do light email, all the way to folks editing 8K video, mining bitcoin and playing high frame rate video games, there is a wide range of gear available.

You can buy a sub-$500 PC that has a hard time doing much of anything with graphics, or you can spend $1300 and get a decent machine for photo editing and light video editing. $2000 will get you to the low end of the pro market. $4000 will let you do very serious work.

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Nov 22, 2022 15:15:58   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
burkphoto wrote:
If they build it, software developers will use it. Unfortunately, the system you buy now will still work in ten years, but you won't really want to use it. New software is not written for ten-year-old hardware. Heck, it isn't even written for seven-year-old hardware. Most developers want it run on three-year-old and newer hardware.

Because the generic PC market has to satisfy everyone from casual web surfers and those who do light email, all the way to folks editing 8K video, mining bitcoin and playing high frame rate video games, there is a wide range of gear available.

You can buy a sub-$500 PC that has a hard time doing much of anything with graphics, or you can spend $1300 and get a decent machine for photo editing and light video editing. $2000 will get you to the low end of the pro market. $4000 will let you do very serious work.
If they build it, software developers will use it.... (show quote)


This is a good analysis of the PC market looks like right now.

For Video, AI and other intensive number crunching applications,
A modern DEDICATED GPU can outperform many processors.

Laptops are often a closed box, with memory soldered in and permanent integrated graphics.

Desktops, while more expandable, are limited by space, memory configuration and power supply issues.

If you expect your computer to execute AI based programs quickly, you should plan on at least 32GB of RAM and a Great graphics card.

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Nov 22, 2022 16:42:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
delder wrote:
This is a good analysis of the PC market looks like right now.

For Video, AI and other intensive number crunching applications,
A modern DEDICATED GPU can outperform many processors.

Laptops are often a closed box, with memory soldered in and permanent integrated graphics.

Desktops, while more expandable, are limited by space, memory configuration and power supply issues.

If you expect your computer to execute AI based programs quickly, you should plan on at least 32GB of RAM and a Great graphics card.
This is a good analysis of the PC market looks lik... (show quote)


That's true for PCs.

Apple Silicon is a whole different scenario, radically different from the AMD/Intel x86 world. For example, take my M1, a single system on one 5nm chip containing:

Four high performance processing cores
Four high efficiency processing cores
Eight GPU cores
Sixteen Neural Engine processing cores (where AI happens)
Sixteen Gigabytes of shared 128-bit LPDDR4X SDRAM in a unified memory configuration shared by all the components of the processor
Other components include an image signal processor, a PCIe storage controller, a USB4 controller that includes Thunderbolt 3 support, and a Secure Enclave. The M1 also has video codec encoding support for HEVC and H.264. It has decoding support for HEVC, H.264, and ProRes.

It is absolutely no slouch when it comes to Photoshop, Lightroom Classic, Final Cut Pro video editing, and Logic Pro audio production. It's also cool and extremely power efficient. Apple has several later M1 variants that are much faster for graphics, and a base M2 that is significantly faster than the base M1.

The trade-off is that yes, it is a fixed, soldered, integrated system that cannot be upgraded. My machine has 1TB of fast SSD storage (two 512GB chips in a RAID 0 array) soldered on the motherboard, inches away from the M1 and its on-die 16GB memory. But I'll take it for the all-day battery life, cool use in my lap without a fan, and the ability to edit large quantities of stills and reasonable amounts of 4K video without breaking a sweat. It runs at the same speed on battery as it does on AC, unless you tell it to use low power mode.

In the photo below, the two large silvery objects on the left are the RAID 0 striped array of storage. The scratched aluminum thing with the Apple logo is the M1 chip, with the two SDRAM modules, connected to all the processor cores in the M1. This is an entire M1 computer motherboard, as used in the MacBook Air (late 2020), 13" MacBook Pro (late 2020), Mac mini (late 2020), and 24" iMac (Spring 2021). (It's neither my photo, nor my actual computer!)

I've had my M1 MacBook Air since August, 2021. It has run flawlessly since I set it up. I run the latest versions of all my software without any speed issues. There are faster computers now, but this is plenty quick for what I do. Everyday computing tasks fly, with no apparent hesitation at all (unless the Internet is slow).

This may last me five to seven years, total. Frankly, if I outgrow it sooner, I'll just give it to one of my kids and get a new one.

The M1 Logic Board
The M1 Logic Board...
(Download)

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Nov 22, 2022 17:17:48   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Yes.
IOS products have always been highly popular in the fields of Graphic Art and Performance/Entertainment.
Of course your laptop is NOT on sale @ Walmart for $299!

I come from a Building Electronics background where the Wintel platform is predominant for program compatibility, but will still acknowledge the role of iOS in graphics!

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Nov 22, 2022 19:02:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
delder wrote:
Yes.
IOS products have always been highly popular in the fields of Graphic Art and Performance/Entertainment.
Of course your laptop is NOT on sale @ Walmart for $299!

I come from a Building Electronics background where the Wintel platform is predominant for program compatibility, but will still acknowledge the role of iOS in graphics!


Intel Macs are PCs and can run Windows natively, or via emulation, inside of MacOS. Apple Silicon Macs can run Windows for Arm 11 in Parallels Desktop.

Apple ceded the low end computer market from day one. Mac users really don’t buy on price. It’s an experience purchase. My computer model starts at $999, but with 16GB and 1TB, it was $1400 at the Apple Refurbished store (about 15% off). Adding drives, hubs, cables, an external monitor, and other goodies doubled that. I’m more than happy with it.

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