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Oct 1, 2022 18:39:43   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Sony only makes mirrorless E-mount lenses now. There hasn't been a DSLR in Sonys lineup for many years since Sony first bought up Minolta. Their A-mount started with a DSLR years ago, but that A-mount quickly moved to a fixed Pellicle mirror design. The Sony A-mount system has been discontinued (Sony A-mount cameras and A-mount lenses are still around, but no new ones are being made), as Sony focuses solely on their mirrorless leading E-mount system.

Sony E-mount cameras benefit from Sony opening their E-mount to third party lens makers, unlike the dumb move by Canon that is already benefiting its competition. Nikon is also opening up their Z-mount to third party lens makers and already collaborating with Tamron on excellent quality Z-lenses that folks can afford.

The E-mount is now the most widely produced and used mirrorless lens mount in the world for everything from compact cameras to APS-C and fullframe still and hybrid cameras, and full cinema cameras like the Sony Venice Cinema Cameras used by top Oscar-winning directors like James Cameron for his Avatar feature films.

There are combined nearly 200 E-mount lenses available from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Zeiss, Samyang/Rokinon, Tokina, Yongnuo, Viltrox, Meike. More than any other lens mount. And both Sony and third-party makers combined are introducing additional new E-mount lenses monthly. There is no shortage of E-mount lenses. So far no E-mount lenses have been discontinued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_E-mount_lenses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_Sony_E-mount_lenses

Cheers and best to you all.
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I didn’t claim that any E-mount lenses have been discontinued. Lenses follow bodies; as Canon and Nikon move to a higher proportion of MILC bodies, it is only natural for them to discontinue some DSLF lenses so they can devote more resources to MILC lenses. Meanwhile, I doubt if their DSLR users will be unable to find the lenses they want/need; if they can’t find a new lens to meet their need/want, I’m sure they can find an appropriate used lens.

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Oct 1, 2022 19:01:24   #
BebuLamar
 
User ID wrote:
The Sony pellicles that you mention differ from the FD and EF mount pellicle SLRs from Canon. Thaz why Sony chose to call them SLTs. The Canons were literally SLRs. The Sonys were not SLRs at all. They were EVFs just like a Fuji or Nikon Z, etc etc but borrowed their AF tech from SLRs despite having no optical SLR viewing system.

Unfortunately, for some of us, various E-mount lenses have been discontinued. These are midlevel models that get replaced with more expensive "better" models. By that method Sony is sending some of their users over to Sigma and Tamron. Weird business model ?!?
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Yes the SLT from Sony are no SLR. Even Sony didn't call them so. They are much closer to being mirrorless. And so Sony abandoned the SLR a long time ago.

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Oct 2, 2022 19:28:26   #
gwilliams6
 
User ID wrote:
The Sony pellicles that you mention differ from the FD and EF mount pellicle SLRs from Canon. Thaz why Sony chose to call them SLTs. The Canons were literally SLRs. The Sonys were not SLRs at all. They were EVFs just like a Fuji or Nikon Z, etc etc but borrowed their AF tech from SLRs despite having no optical SLR viewing system.



Unfortunately, for some of us, various E-mount lenses have been discontinued. These are midlevel models that get replaced with more expensive "better" models. By that method Sony is sending some of their users over to Sigma and Tamron. Weird business model ?!?
The Sony pellicles that you mention differ from th... (show quote)


Dont you just love it when folks dont do proper research, in this case about Sony. LOL

Before Sony changed their A-mount to SLTs with Pellicle mirrors, Sony did at first have some true DSLRs when they first teamed up with Minolta.

Sony's entry into the DSLR market dates back to 2008 where a joint venture with Konica Minolta resulted in both companies marketing an updated line of DSLRs to consumers. Sony model A900, and Sony model A850 were true DSLRS. Check your Sony history more carefully, please.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_%CE%B1_cameras

You are also incorrect in your knowledge of Sony E-mount lenses. Sony still sells the version one of its E-mount lenses when it makes a version two, they are NOT discontinued at all. Look it up.

And Sony often sells both f2.8 and f4 versions of the same focal length zoom lenses, G quality and G-Master quality. And Sony also sells f1.8 and f1.4 versions of some same focal length prime lenses, G quality and G-Master quality. And Sony even sells f1.2, f1.4 and f1.8 versions of its 50mm focal length lenses.

Sony isn't sending any of its users to Sigma or Tamron, LOL .

Sony users just have the options of buying Sony E-mount lenses or a host of third-party E-mount lenses. There are combined nearly 200 current E-mount lenses available from Sony and all third-party makers.

And FYI, Sony does partly own Tamron.

I personally own 13 E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma and Tamron for my A1, A7RIV, A7SIII. All E-mount lens makers compete in all focal lengths. That benefits Sony users with greater choices for all budgets.

Cheers, and you need to brush up on your Sony facts, LOL

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Oct 2, 2022 21:23:20   #
User ID
 
rehess wrote:
I didn’t claim that any E-mount lenses have been discontinued. Lenses follow bodies; as Canon and Nikon move to a higher proportion of MILC bodies, it is only natural for them to discontinue some DSLF lenses so they can devote more resources to MILC lenses. Meanwhile, I doubt if their DSLR users will be unable to find the lenses they want/need; if they can’t find a new lens to meet their need/want, I’m sure they can find an appropriate used lens.

You said that "so far no E-mount lenses have been discontinued".

Unfortunately for those of us with only midrange budgets some E-mount lenses HAVE been discontinued. An unfortunate aspect is that the discontinued E-mount lenses tend to then get replaced by less affordable higher spec newer models.

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Oct 2, 2022 22:41:46   #
gwilliams6
 
User ID wrote:
You said that "so far no E-mount lenses have been discontinued".

Unfortunately for those of us with only midrange budgets some E-mount lenses HAVE been discontinued. An unfortunate aspect is that the discontinued E-mount lenses tend to then get replaced by less affordable higher spec newer models.


Again, NOT the reality.

As more and more excellent and more affordable third-party E-mount lenses have been introduced , Sony has also introduced more affordable excellent quality E-mount lenses of their own, in addition to a few expensive GM lenses.

Many of these new more affordable Sony E-mount lenses are testing as sharp as some GM lenses in MTF-Standard sharpness tests, yet cost less than some GM lenses. Check these out:
https://sonyalpha.blog/2019/11/10/which-lenses-to-maximise-the-potential-of-the-sony-a7riv/

Just one example: the top-rated Sony 24mm f1.4 GM lens costs $1400 USD. it was introduced in Sept. 2018. Then in 2020 Sony introduced the new even wider 20mm f1.8 G lens which costs $898 USD. The 20mm f1.8 G tests equally as sharp as the older more expensive 24mm f1.4 GM lens.

Sony Managers I know told me at WPPI in Las Vegas in 2020 that Sony was responding to market price pressure from excellent third-party lenses and would be rolling out more affordable quality E-mount lenses, and they have released many more such lenses.

User-ID please do better research on what is currently available in lenses from Sony and what these lenses cost.

Cheers and best to you.

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Oct 2, 2022 22:44:05   #
gwilliams6
 
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Oct 7, 2022 15:28:53   #
User ID
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Dont you just love it when folks dont do proper research, in this case about Sony. LOL

Before Sony changed their A-mount to SLTs with Pellicle mirrors, Sony did at first have some true DSLRs when they first teamed up with Minolta.

Sony's entry into the DSLR market dates back to 2008 where a joint venture with Konica Minolta resulted in both companies marketing an updated line of DSLRs to consumers. Sony model A900, and Sony model A850 were true DSLRS. Check your Sony history more carefully, please.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_%CE%B1_cameras

You are also incorrect in your knowledge of Sony E-mount lenses. Sony still sells the version one of its E-mount lenses when it makes a version two, they are NOT discontinued at all. Look it up.

And Sony often sells both f2.8 and f4 versions of the same focal length zoom lenses, G quality and G-Master quality. And Sony also sells f1.8 and f1.4 versions of some same focal length prime lenses, G quality and G-Master quality. And Sony even sells f1.2, f1.4 and f1.8 versions of its 50mm focal length lenses.

Sony isn't sending any of its users to Sigma or Tamron, LOL .

Sony users just have the options of buying Sony E-mount lenses or a host of third-party E-mount lenses. There are combined nearly 200 current E-mount lenses available from Sony and all third-party makers.

And FYI, Sony does partly own Tamron.

I personally own 13 E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma and Tamron for my A1, A7RIV, A7SIII. All E-mount lens makers compete in all focal lengths. That benefits Sony users with greater choices for all budgets.

Cheers, and you need to brush up on your Sony facts, LOL
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Oct 7, 2022 23:06:55   #
gwilliams6
 
User ID , you continue to show your childishness and irrelevance in most discussions here in UHH.
You have reduced yourself to nothing more than comic relief. LOL, LOL

Cheers

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Oct 8, 2022 14:46:53   #
User ID
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
User ID , you continue to show your childishness and irrelevance in most discussions here in UHH.
You have reduced yourself to nothing more than comic relief. LOL, LOL

Cheers


ROTFLMFAO. I have seen your archive.

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