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From Nikon Rumors:Sigma and Tamron discontinuing 40 DSLR lenses, and Nikon discontinues 35 F DSLR lenses. Does it matter in the marketplace?
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Sep 28, 2022 17:00:44   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Yes, of course, but the film camera market is totally distinct from the digital market, and has had a 10+ year jump on the DSLR fade.

Not really, many of those lenses are usable on film cameras - that was my point. The markets are not truly distinct.

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Sep 28, 2022 17:04:28   #
gwilliams6
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
One way it might affect the market place is better availability of new lenses. They stop making the old ones they can increase capacity for the new ones.



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Sep 28, 2022 17:45:17   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
rehess wrote:
Not really, many of those lenses are usable on film cameras - that was my point. The markets are not truly distinct.


So there's NO DIFFERENCE between someone looking for film camera and one looking for digital? Disagree strongly.

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Sep 28, 2022 18:26:48   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
Not really, many of those lenses are usable on film cameras - that was my point. The markets are not truly distinct.


Many of the DSLR (SLR) lenses are still very useful but there are plenty of them on the used market as well as in the hands of people who do use them so there is no need for new lenses.

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Sep 28, 2022 19:02:05   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
So there's NO DIFFERENCE between someone looking for film camera and one looking for digital? Disagree strongly.

I was saying that there is not necessarily any difference in the lenses; do you disagree with that strongly???

I was a Canon user when I went digital. I got a Digital Rebel specifically because I could use the 28mm-80mm lens and 70-300mm lens I already had, so all I had to add was the kit 18-55mm lens and I had a useable kit. At the beginning, my digital kit contained two lenses which had been in my film kit. After I returned to Pentax - and then the mechanism of my K-30 to control the aperture failed - I purchased several old film lenses which allowed me to control the aperture at the lens.

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Sep 28, 2022 20:47:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Imagine there were no mirrors....


Would be much harder to detect the vampires among us.

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Sep 28, 2022 20:52:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Makes sense - the DSLR lines will just drag down the finances of the company...better to concentrate on mirrorless innovations/R&D. Heck, folks are still buying film era equipment on ebay and the same will continue for used DSLR equipment.

Dragging down the finances? I'm not following your logic here.

A company will stop making a product when it stops becoming profitable. But the DSLR gear is mature, NRE long ago paid, no new DSLR developments are planned, so every lens sold will return a little profit. As long as demand continues they will continue to sell the gear.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:19:42   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
JD750 wrote:
Dragging down the finances? I'm not following your logic here.

A company will stop making a product when it stops becoming profitable. But the DSLR gear is mature, NRE long ago paid, no new DSLR developments are planned, so every lens sold will return a little profit.

That is not clear.
If {their owner} Ricoh approves, Pentax may continue development , but few notice Pentax these days.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:38:09   #
BebuLamar
 
JD750 wrote:
Dragging down the finances? I'm not following your logic here.

A company will stop making a product when it stops becoming profitable. But the DSLR gear is mature, NRE long ago paid, no new DSLR developments are planned, so every lens sold will return a little profit. As long as demand continues they will continue to sell the gear.


But really there is very little demand. I won't go mirrorless and will stay with DSLR but I don't think I am buying any lenses,

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Sep 28, 2022 21:42:57   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But really there is very little demand. I won't go mirrorless and will stay with DSLR but I don't think I am buying any lenses,


If there is no demand, they won't keep selling them. As someone pointed out there are still a lot of DSLR lenses available.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:52:01   #
User ID
 
Tony G. wrote:
No! The Future is not what is use to be.

That was now but this then.

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Sep 28, 2022 21:54:01   #
User ID
 
rehess wrote:
Some K-mount, F-mount, EF-mount lenses are film-era equipment.

Uh huh. I use all of those on my Zs, plus Leica-M, Min-SR, M39 and M42 mounts.


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Sep 28, 2022 23:11:35   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. I use all of those on my Zs, plus Leica-M, Min-SR, M39 and M42 mounts.

and I use old film Pentax {K-mount} and Takumar {M42-mount} lenses on my Pentax DSLR.
Those who sell them to me may use the money to purchase other DSLR lenses.

What I did say originally is “ there is not necessarily any difference in the lenses”; in other worlds I could use either lens on my film Pentax “Super Program” or on my digital K-30; lenses are not truly specialized. Of course it will not AF, but it never was an AF camera, but both lenses will give good photos on either camera; that is all I claimed.



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Sep 29, 2022 07:33:09   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The future is not made of the same stuff as the present, the future does not have mirrors.

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Sep 29, 2022 08:51:21   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
From Nikon Rumors: Sigma and Tamron discontinuing 40 DSLR lenses, and Nikon discontinues 35 F DLSR lenses. Does it matter in the marketplace?

https://nikonrumors.com/2022/09/26/sigma-has-discontinued-18-dslr-lenses-tamron-has-discontinued-22-dslr-lenses.aspx/

Cheers and best to you.


I'd venture a guess that the $$ value of the used lenses for those who will continue with DSLR bodies will improve, as shrinking stock of the discontinued lenses will make used the only way for those who feel no need to upgrade bodies. It will also drive the conversion to MILC for many who were/are "on the fence"..........

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