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Sep 22, 2022 15:41:22   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
photoman43 wrote:
The User Manual for the D850 on page 271 explains how to format a card in camera (either one if two are in the camera) with two buttons--the ISO button and the Delete button.

For me, I do it with the Setup Menu as I find this easier and safer with my Nikon bodies. Before every shoot, I check many things before using the camera. One of these is the card to see if any images are on it. The others are date and time, White Balance, exp comp, Auto ISO or ISO, card slot preferences, metering, and battery type and order.

I would never use a Function button to format a card as this is too risky for me.
The User Manual for the D850 on page 271 explains ... (show quote)


Using the two button format is probably less risky than the menu.

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Sep 22, 2022 18:10:39   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
What happened – first hour of four-hour festival shoot lost forever (50-100 images). Additionally, 237 images lost but recovered via Wondershare Recoverit. Additional 73 images produced normally. Camera, software and disk all cleared of being the cause. Always format disk in camera before shoot. Additionally, disk is uploaded via reader to remote drive unnotched.

How it may have happened? My Fn2 button is programmed to “My Menu” which the first line is format disk. When I touch Fn2 the screen defaults therefore to format disk. You can use toggle\OK or touch commands, about 3 steps to format the disk. At 6’4”, I us Black Rapid shoulder strap and from time to time when lowering or pulling the camera. I inadvertently touch one of the six buttons on the left side. This means if Fn2 is touched, format disk is now only two touches from specific selection and activation. Thousands of images and have never experienced this issue before. This is like guessing the six numbers in the lottery.

OK? Assuming you are still with me (thank you), when recovering the lost images, 1,737 images were recovered in total of which 237 were the festival shoot. The 1,737 dated from current back to April.

CONCLUSION AND QUESTION – WHEN NEW IMAGES\FILES ARE WRITTEN TO A FORMATTED DISK, THERE IS NO PREFERENCE IN TIME TO PRIOR-FORMATTED OFF IMAGES\FILES (correct)?

D850 Solution – assuming correct regarding the error, I have moved format disk to #2 position and elevated “Clean Sensor” to #1 (default view). Also other than moving shoots, such as sports and air shows, I will change bay 2 to backup from overflow.

Any other suggestions or directions are always appreciated.
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Your conclusion is correct - there is no preference for where/what is being overwritten.

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Sep 23, 2022 08:52:44   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
smf85 wrote:
Your conclusion is correct - there is no preference for where/what is being overwritten.


First, thank you to everyone for your responses. The question was, "CONCLUSION AND QUESTION – WHEN NEW IMAGES\FILES ARE WRITTEN TO A FORMATTED DISK, THERE IS NO PREFERENCE IN TIME TO PRIOR-FORMATTED OFF IMAGES\FILES (correct)?" SMF85, the winner, special thank you, I needed that confirmation.

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Sep 23, 2022 21:17:06   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Using the two button format is probably less risky than the menu.


Why less risky?

I use the menu and select which card to format. Even doing two cards only takes a few seconds.

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Sep 23, 2022 22:22:55   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Bill_de wrote:
Why less risky?

I use the menu and select which card to format. Even doing two cards only takes a few seconds.

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I’m not saying it’s likely, but possible. If you bump the menu button it’ll open to Format where you left it. Maybe you’re trying to make adjustments and don’t see it’s on Format. You could accidentally format your card. Like I said, not likely. Although more likely than accidentally doing that double button press twice in succession.

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Sep 23, 2022 22:35:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m not saying it’s likely, but possible. If you bump the menu button it’ll open to Format where you left it. Maybe you’re trying to make adjustments and don’t see it’s on Format. You could accidentally format your card. Like I said, not likely. Although more likely than accidentally doing that double button press twice in succession.


With my Nikons you could accidently chose format. If you accidently hit it again you would get to choose slot a or b. Then, if you accidently selected a slot, you would have to accidently choose "YES" (it defaults to No) before anything happens.

Anyone who is that accident prone ... needs serious help.

Other cameras may function differently.

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