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Oct 16, 2022 12:53:50   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
He had to be 50 ft. or more away. You can't get a shot like that with your smartphone without getting within 5-10 feet. Then you've inserted yourself into the scene and the moment is gone. I wish I'd gotten a little more depth of field. It would have been nice to have the bubbles and the bubble machine in focus.


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Mar 25, 2023 17:07:18   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
steveo52 wrote:
I’m including 2 photos from a vacation we are on in a rental home. They are both of the same palm tree. I like the photo better from the Iphone 13 and am not really happy with the straight out of the Canon r6. If I ran the Canon photo thru Lightroom I know I can improve it. Would you do anything different with the settings?

Here’s the settings for the Canon r6 24-105, RF lens, 50mm ISO 250, f/4, 1/2500. I used landscape as the picture style in AV.

For the iPhone 13 Pro Max 37mm, iso 50, f/1.5, 1/1412.

The Canon is the first photo the second the iPhone.
I’m including 2 photos from a vacation we are on i... (show quote)


If you just want to snap photos then iPhone is fine. That being said the iPhone saturates, sharpens and tones for you without having to use its edit feature. I think these cameras to camera phone comparisons are pointless.

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May 18, 2023 08:36:50   #
ThreeCee Loc: Washington, DC
 
The canon pic is basically unedited in the camera. With no retouching and editing you have what your settings gave you. The phone pic has been edited to enhance based on AI. If you like the AI it did a good job. If not you could shoot in Camera Raw and edit every shot. Jpeg bakes in a picture but doesn’t provide as much AI as the phone pic.

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May 31, 2023 11:41:57   #
ThreeCee Loc: Washington, DC
 
steveo52 wrote:
I have an iphone 14 on order too. I’m thinking I’ve got this high end R6 and out of the camera the iPHone looks better. Very discouraging. I have however made some nice enlargements from a zoo visit last year with the Canon.


The iPhone pix are edited in camera. The jpegs to a degree. Camera Raw is a digital negative and has to be edited to get the full potential. In the photo posted look at the sky to see the big difference in the photos. You should always go with the one you like most.

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Jul 20, 2023 00:24:46   #
gener202002
 
The colors seem to be a little more intense with the phone picture, number 2. That is nice. Both seem to be adequately sharp and focus is good. I think with lightroom and/or photoshop, a lot can be done with either picture. The slightly darker, (in my opinion), second photograph could be done I am sure with the R6 as well depending on what settings you choose. Of course, a lot depends on personal taste.

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Jul 20, 2023 08:37:37   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
steveo52 wrote:
I’m including 2 photos from a vacation we are on in a rental home. They are both of the same palm tree. I like the photo better from the Iphone 13 and am not really happy with the straight out of the Canon r6. If I ran the Canon photo thru Lightroom I know I can improve it. Would you do anything different with the settings?

Here’s the settings for the Canon r6 24-105, RF lens, 50mm ISO 250, f/4, 1/2500. I used landscape as the picture style in AV.

For the iPhone 13 Pro Max 37mm, iso 50, f/1.5, 1/1412.

The Canon is the first photo the second the iPhone.
I’m including 2 photos from a vacation we are on i... (show quote)


I'm not sure why this has come back around, but it illustratessome points that come up over and over. Some have been mentioned already, but let's put them together.

The almost universal mantra of the "exposure triangle" has led to very careless handling and management of ISO. There is much more to be considered than noise when deciding what sensitivity level to use. ISO does not have to get very high, even in the most modern cameras, before dynamic range and color rendition are affected in unpleasant ways. If you are going to post process your images, it is possible that these effects can be ignored, but that is not the case if you want to be sure things are ideal straight from the camera.

Second...you must use the proper metering choice. Here you have a central subject of average brightness centered within a much brighter sky background. If you meter on that central subject, the sky is going to get more exposure than you want. Again...if you are going to post process, it can be fixed. If you want it correct straight from the camera, you are going to havr to do something about it. Matrix or Evaluative metering may help. (I don't know the details of Canon operation but you should.) So may adjusting your camera for higher saturation. You also could dial in a little exposure compensation to reduce exposure a little bit.

Finally, instead of relying on Scene controls, learn how to adjust the details of how your camera captures and records images. Parameters like contrasr, saturation, sharpness, and three or four other characteristics should be available somewhere to be adjusted. Check the manual, learn where those are, and figure out how each one affects your images. Do not, by the way, try to take portraits with a setup that is optimized for higher contrast and saturation. Your female relatives, friends, and acquaintances will all shun you.

To summarize...your camera can deliver a photograph just like or very similar to the cell phone reference photo that you have right there. You just have to learn to tell it how to do so. So learn your camera's adjustments, then sit down with that reference photo (or probably a different one that you like), and turn the dials (or really, move the sliders) until your camera geves you what you want.

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Jul 21, 2023 09:52:33   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I suspect that the Canon photo is more like what the scene actually looked like, whereas the iPhone adjusted exposure, contrast, and brilliance, plus others, to give the scene a more pleasing rendition of what it thinks you want the scene to look like. EXIF data for ISO, aperture, and shutter speed don't show all of the internal adjustments that any particular camera is using.

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Jul 21, 2023 10:24:43   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
gvarner wrote:
I suspect that the Canon photo is more like what the scene actually looked like, whereas the iPhone adjusted exposure, contrast, and brilliance, plus others, to give the scene a more pleasing rendition of what it thinks you want the scene to look like. EXIF data for ISO, aperture, and shutter speed don't show all of the internal adjustments that any particular camera is using.


That might be the case. But I have found that every camera I have bought over the past 18 years (except for a Fuji S3 Pro) delivered quite bland, under-saturated, and unsharp images straight from the box, even the one that offered "scene" choices. None of them were Canon models.

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Jul 21, 2023 10:40:24   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
larryepage wrote:
That might be the case. But I have found that every camera I have bought over the past 18 years (except for a Fuji S3 Pro) delivered quite bland, under-saturated, and unsharp images straight from the box, even the one that offered "scene" choices. None of them were Canon models.


RAW photos come out fairly bland because they ignore some of the internal camera menu tweaks that you can do for JPEGs.

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Jul 21, 2023 13:15:29   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
gvarner wrote:
RAW photos come out fairly bland because they ignore some of the internal camera menu tweaks that you can do for JPEGs.


Oops. I was talking about out-of-the box JPEGs.

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Jul 21, 2023 13:37:18   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
larryepage wrote:
Oops. I was talking about out-of-the box JPEGs.


JPEGs will also come out pretty flat if you just use the internal factory settings without tweaking the clarity and vibrance response in the menu. My Nikon has a Landscape selection that gives those types of photos more pop but does not affect what the RAW file produces.

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Sep 26, 2023 09:17:13   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
steveo52 wrote:
I have an iphone 14 on order too. I’m thinking I’ve got this high end R6 and out of the camera the iPHone looks better. Very discouraging. I have however made some nice enlargements from a zoo visit last year with the Canon.


you are basing this on one photo???

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Sep 26, 2023 09:23:19   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I know this is going to be harsh, but it's got to be said: If you don't know how to use your camera, use your phone.

Why are you shooting at f/4?
Why are you shooting at 1/2500?
Why are you shooting so fast you drive the ISO to ISO-1250?

When presenting two images for comparison, and using LR, export the two images to the same pixel dimensions.

If you want a camera image that clearly demonstrates the benefits of this expensive luxury technology, use it in a way that justifies this expensive luxury technology.
I know this is going to be harsh, but it's got to ... (show quote)



Geez, I didn't even look at that, Paul. Can you believe these guys? Maybe they should use an iPhone. You don't have to think.

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Sep 26, 2023 09:32:30   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
AFPhoto wrote:
I shoot the R5 and the iPhone 14 ProMax. In my opinion there is no comparison on the quality and flexibility of use except for one area where the iPhone clearly wins out. It is always in my pocket so photo opportunities that come along when I dont have the camera can now be exploited.


EXACTLY

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