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Sep 19, 2022 10:04:07   #
fotobyferg
 
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most.

Does anyone else experience interminable slowness when exporting edited images for L4?

It takes almost 2 hours to export @ 200 images to a folder on my desktop…which is ridiculous.

My MAC is reasonably fast on all other tasks…not lightning speed, but good enough for my needs. As I recall, it has 2.8 gh processor, 3tb storage, and a ssd motherboard. I use to keep up with all the latest greatest MAC stuff, but no longer bother.

My MAC repair guy is a personal friend and is expert on all things MAC. I always follow his advice on purchases because he knows my practical needs for what I do on my computers.

BTW, he is *that* MAC guy…..

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Sep 19, 2022 10:06:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
fotobyferg wrote:
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most.

Does anyone else experience interminable slowness when exporting edited images for L4?

It takes almost 2 hours to export @ 200 images to a folder on my desktop…which is ridiculous.

My MAC is reasonably fast on all other tasks…not lightning speed, but good enough for my needs. As I recall, it has 2.8 gh processor, 3tb storage, and a ssd motherboard. I use to keep up with all the latest greatest MAC stuff, but no longer bother.

My MAC repair guy is a personal friend and is expert on all things MAC. I always follow his advice on purchases because he knows my practical needs for what I do on my computers.

BTW, he is *that* MAC guy…..
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most. br b... (show quote)


That sounds ridiculously slow. I don't care how big the files are, that's too long.

Where are the files coming from - another folder on the computer?

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Sep 19, 2022 11:13:52   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
fotobyferg wrote:
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most.

Does anyone else experience interminable slowness when exporting edited images for L4?

It takes almost 2 hours to export @ 200 images to a folder on my desktop…which is ridiculous.

My MAC is reasonably fast on all other tasks…not lightning speed, but good enough for my needs. As I recall, it has 2.8 gh processor, 3tb storage, and a ssd motherboard. I use to keep up with all the latest greatest MAC stuff, but no longer bother.

My MAC repair guy is a personal friend and is expert on all things MAC. I always follow his advice on purchases because he knows my practical needs for what I do on my computers.

BTW, he is *that* MAC guy…..
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most. br b... (show quote)

I’ve owned every version of Luminar since Luminar 2018. I use a PC, not a Mac, but I think my comments will also apply to Mac users.
Luminar ran very slow on my PC until I coincidentally upgraded to a new PC. My new PC now has 32GB of memory, a dedicated graphics card (as opposed to integrated onto the motherboard), an internal SSD drive, etc. Luminar 4 took up 8GB of internal memory and at times up to 11GB of memory to run. So if your Mac doesn’t have a lot of memory then there’s a lot of disc swapping going on. A dedicated graphics card is also helpful for Luminar products.
Luminar AI from what I understand was a new application from the ground up as opposed to an upgrade from Luminar 4. I find on my PC that it runs much faster and crashes less often than Luminar 4. Luminar AI also takes up about half the internal memory than Luminar 4.
Luminar NEO on my PC runs slower than Luminar AI, so I’ve reverted back to using Luminar AI.
Try doing what you’re doing on Luminar AI and see if that helps, short of upgrading your Mac. Good luck!

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Sep 19, 2022 12:08:52   #
fotobyferg
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That sounds ridiculously slow. I don't care how big the files are, that's too long.

Where are the files coming from - another folder on the computer?


No, directly from L4.

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Sep 19, 2022 12:12:59   #
fotobyferg
 
Fredrick wrote:
I’ve owned every version of Luminar since Luminar 2018. I use a PC, not a Mac, but I think my comments will also apply to Mac users.
Luminar ran very slow on my PC until I coincidentally upgraded to a new PC. My new PC now has 32GB of memory, a dedicated graphics card (as opposed to integrated onto the motherboard), an internal SSD drive, etc. Luminar 4 took up 8GB of internal memory and at times up to 11GB of memory to run. So if your Mac doesn’t have a lot of memory then there’s a lot of disc swapping going on. A dedicated graphics card is also helpful for Luminar products.
Luminar AI from what I understand was a new application from the ground up as opposed to an upgrade from Luminar 4. I find on my PC that it runs much faster and crashes less often than Luminar 4. Luminar AI also takes up about half the internal memory than Luminar 4.
Luminar NEO on my PC runs slower than Luminar AI, so I’ve reverted back to using Luminar AI.
Try doing what you’re doing on Luminar AI and see if that helps, short of upgrading your Mac. Good luck!
I’ve owned every version of Luminar since Luminar ... (show quote)


Thanks...just bought the MAC on JP's recommendation, but I will try using AI and see what happens. I know JP had me close some applications running in the background. Carbonite, for example, was a memory hog.

I have 2.8 GHz Quad core Intel Core i7, 16 GB memory, graphics Intel Iris pro 1536 MB....

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Sep 19, 2022 16:59:28   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
fotobyferg wrote:
Thanks...just bought the MAC on JP's recommendation, but I will try using AI and see what happens. I know JP had me close some applications running in the background. Carbonite, for example, was a memory hog.

I have 2.8 GHz Quad core Intel Core i7, 16 GB memory, graphics Intel Iris pro 1536 MB....


Sounds like you have a good Mac. 16GB of memory might slow things down a bit depending on how many applications you have running. Don't know how expensive or easy it is to install additional memory on a Mac? On a PC it's easy and inexpensive. You might want to keep an eye on memory usage, to minimize disc swapping.

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Sep 20, 2022 11:36:17   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Click on the Apple logo, about, and report what you see (don’t give us a screenshot as it shows your serial number) then I can look up your options. That said I have an M1 Mac Mini with 16GB (max but uses unified memory unlike other computers) and 1TB SSD. Skylum apps (and I have them all from the MacPhun days) have been poorly written, poorly tested, and never fully functional from the first releases of Luminar. As a retired software exec, we would classify them as ‘all sizzle, no steak’. Luminar 3 was a disaster; remember Flex? They promised Luminar 4 would fix the problems but it had glaring deficiencies. Then they promised Luminar AI would fix the Luminar 4 issues and it sort of did as I consider it to be the best but the bar is set pretty low. Neo is laughable. I feel for them being in Ukraine, so I didn't ask for my money back but fool me 5 times? I'm done.

Ok, that said, exporting images can be very tasking on a computer especially if you are taking images with multiple layers, flattening them into jpegs. Even well-written software like LR or On1 will use a ton of resources. You can see what is going on with your mac through the utility programs or buy iStat to monitor them. They can tell you if you are having to use a lot of swap memory or if other processes or apps are fighting Luminar 4.

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Sep 20, 2022 11:55:14   #
fotobyferg
 
Ednsb wrote:
Click on the Apple logo, about, and report what you see (don’t give us a screenshot as it shows your serial number) then I can look up your options. That said I have an M1 Mac Mini with 16GB (max but uses unified memory unlike other computers) and 1TB SSD. Skylum apps (and I have them all from the MacPhun days) have been poorly written, poorly tested, and never fully functional from the first releases of Luminar. As a retired software exec, we would classify them as ‘all sizzle, no steak’. Luminar 3 was a disaster; remember Flex? They promised Luminar 4 would fix the problems but it had glaring deficiencies. Then they promised Luminar AI would fix the Luminar 4 issues and it sort of did as I consider it to be the best but the bar is set pretty low. Neo is laughable. I feel for them being in Ukraine, so I didn't ask for my money back but fool me 5 times? I'm done.

Ok, that said, exporting images can be very tasking on a computer especially if you are taking images with multiple layers, flattening them into jpegs. Even well-written software like LR or On1 will use a ton of resources. You can see what is going on with your mac through the utility programs or buy iStat to monitor them. They can tell you if you are having to use a lot of swap memory or if other processes or apps are fighting Luminar 4.
Click on the Apple logo, about, and report what yo... (show quote)


Yes, as mentioned, my MAC guy is a real pro. He has had me do all you mention above. I just asked him about possibly upgrading the memory. As I am sure you are aware, later model MACs are all about short-lived usefulness and needing to replace them after a number of years, as they are not upgrade-able. I am hoping to hang on to my current model for as long as possible.

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Sep 20, 2022 15:02:04   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
fotobyferg wrote:
Yes, as mentioned, my MAC guy is a real pro. He has had me do all you mention above. I just asked him about possibly upgrading the memory. As I am sure you are aware, later model MACs are all about short-lived usefulness and needing to replace them after a number of years, as they are not upgrade-able. I am hoping to hang on to my current model for as long as possible.

Just as an aside, re: later model MAC’s not being upgrade-able. They’re a lot more expensive than comparable PC’s, and PC’s are easily upgrade-able and generally inexpensive to do. I never understood why people use MAC’s. I’m not trying to be a wiseguy about this. I’m really trying to understand. I’m a long time iPhone and IPad user, so I like the Apple ecosystem, but I just don’t get the appeal of MAC’s.
What can MAc’s do that PC’s can’t do, making the limitations in MAC upgrade-ability and additional expense worth it? Just curious.

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Sep 20, 2022 15:08:33   #
nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
fotobyferg wrote:
Yes, as mentioned, my MAC guy is a real pro. He has had me do all you mention above. I just asked him about possibly upgrading the memory. As I am sure you are aware, later model MACs are all about short-lived usefulness and needing to replace them after a number of years, as they are not upgrade-able. I am hoping to hang on to my current model for as long as possible.

The Luminar A1 material recommends at least 16 memory ram. I recently purchased a MacAir. I don’t store any photos in the MacAir memory. Rather, I use SSD external hard drives. I have had very few issues. Hope this info helps.

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Sep 20, 2022 15:13:27   #
nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
Bragging rights?
In the past, i was told that the Mac is better suited for photographers than the PC. I bought the advice and my MacAir is my 2nd Apple computer. It is also compatible with my iPhone and tablet. Basically, I have no idea but will say that it is not more expensive than a high level/quality PC.

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Sep 23, 2022 05:26:38   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
fotobyferg wrote:
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most.

Does anyone else experience interminable slowness when exporting edited images for L4?

It takes almost 2 hours to export @ 200 images to a folder on my desktop…which is ridiculous.

My MAC is reasonably fast on all other tasks…not lightning speed, but good enough for my needs. As I recall, it has 2.8 gh processor, 3tb storage, and a ssd motherboard. I use to keep up with all the latest greatest MAC stuff, but no longer bother.

My MAC repair guy is a personal friend and is expert on all things MAC. I always follow his advice on purchases because he knows my practical needs for what I do on my computers.

BTW, he is *that* MAC guy…..
I own L4, LAI, and Neo, but use L4 the most. br b... (show quote)


Keep your data on an external Thunderbolt drive.
One drive means reading, preparing and writing by one thing on that same one thing.
Old school optimization was #1 drive- boot, #2 drive- data, #3 drive- for tmp/paging files.
My fave was creating Fusion drives. 960gb SSD + 1tb Firecuda = Fusion Zoom
Close *all* other apps. Unplug. Plug. Reboot. Try again.
See if you can double your ram.
Macs are very good with ram. But:
OSX can run Adobe- but was not made to run Adobe.
Desktops are for shortcuts. Export to a separate folder.

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