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Jun 22, 2022 19:48:06   #
r1ch Loc: Colorado
 
Blaster34 wrote:
My ASUS Zenbook 14" laptop with HD display crashed or should I say screen broke recently and now looking to upgrade/replace. I don't have a very large workflow and what I do is just my hobby, nothing for sale, just prints for myself, family and friends. I primarily use Luminar, Photoshop Elements and a suite of Topaz utilities for sharpening and denoise plus a few smaller ancillary programs.

Lots of sales and price reductions going on now with some good buys. But my quandary is all the new display panels on these laptops include OLED, HD, full HD, IPS, VA, WXUGA, etc. Is there any one technology that is better suited for photo editing or are they all similar for editing? I will be staying in the 14" range since we travel extensively and don't want a large laptop to lug around. Comments, recommendations and/or experience greatly appreciated...Cheers all.
My ASUS Zenbook 14" laptop with HD display cr... (show quote)


While the type of monitor has importance, sometimes the best is cost prohibitive.Color Gamut is very important
I suggest getting at least 94% RGB 100 percent is better. Adobe RGB 100 percent is best and has more vivid greens Color accuracy is important and just get the best you can afford. Gaming laptops bought around Christmas offer the best value, you have to find one that rates well in the gamut space. (Read reviews of specific laptops to get the specs )Nits is brightness and is somewhat important. You should not edit with the brightness too high. For more reading check this out.

https://www.msi.com/blog/laptops-101-what-goes-into-selecting-an-ideal-laptop-display-for-content-creators
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/everything-you-need-to-know-about-laptop-displays/
https://www.eizo.com/library/basics/lcd_monitor_color_gamut/

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Jun 23, 2022 07:05:22   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
Blaster34 wrote:
My ASUS Zenbook 14" laptop with HD display crashed or should I say screen broke recently and now looking to upgrade/replace. I don't have a very large workflow and what I do is just my hobby, nothing for sale, just prints for myself, family and friends. I primarily use Luminar, Photoshop Elements and a suite of Topaz utilities for sharpening and denoise plus a few smaller ancillary programs.

Lots of sales and price reductions going on now with some good buys. But my quandary is all the new display panels on these laptops include OLED, HD, full HD, IPS, VA, WXUGA, etc. Is there any one technology that is better suited for photo editing or are they all similar for editing? I will be staying in the 14" range since we travel extensively and don't want a large laptop to lug around. Comments, recommendations and/or experience greatly appreciated...Cheers all.
My ASUS Zenbook 14" laptop with HD display cr... (show quote)


Go with IPS at full HD resolution. 4k is wasted on such small screen

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Jun 23, 2022 08:02:35   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Schoee wrote:
Go with IPS at full HD resolution. 4k is wasted on such small screen


Thanks, guess with all the technology out there, more of marketing.....so as LS says, don't over analyze and keep it simple and you're right, HD

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Jun 23, 2022 08:09:22   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Blaster34 wrote:
From reading all the options on these new laptops and researching and reviewing and seeing some of the same references you have researched, guess I'll just stick with HD and not over think it (KISS). I did see some 4K displays on some high-end HP laptops, above the $2500 range....not in my current budget. Thank you


Just a note; HD seems to usually refer to < 1080 (700-900) and Full HD = 1080 or better. Last laptop purchase, tried (17") had with decent specs but just HD, didn't seem sharp enough (to me and my wife, and with adjustments) and I returned it. Ended up with a 17 HP Full HD, 16 Gig Ram/1 TB and a little better processors, like everything about it, visually much better, and handles the larger photo files much better. I happened upon a "build your own" sale at HP and it ended up being not much more $$. If you are going to Post Process, I'd say go for at least Full HD, but I'm sure there are many opinions.
My$.02

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Jun 23, 2022 08:56:55   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
olemikey wrote:
Just a note; HD seems to usually refer to < 1080 (700-900) and Full HD = 1080 or better. Last laptop purchase, tried (17") had with decent specs but just HD, didn't seem sharp enough (to me and my wife, and with adjustments) and I returned it. Ended up with a 17 HP Full HD, 16 Gig Ram/1 TB and a little better processors, like everything about it, visually much better, and handles the larger photo files much better. I happened upon a "build your own" sale at HP and it ended up being not much more $$. If you are going to Post Process, I'd say go for at least Full HD, but I'm sure there are many opinions.
My$.02
Just a note; HD seems to usually refer to < 108... (show quote)


Thanks olemikey, I plan on looking at Full HD and it appears my preferred laptop, ASUS, has a majority of their new laptop displays as OLED. Not sure about that but a 3:2 display like the HP Spectre which has full HD will be on my list....Cheers

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Jun 23, 2022 09:05:30   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
r1ch wrote:
While the type of monitor has importance, sometimes the best is cost prohibitive.Color Gamut is very important
I suggest getting at least 94% RGB 100 percent is better. Adobe RGB 100 percent is best and has more vivid greens Color accuracy is important and just get the best you can afford. Gaming laptops bought around Christmas offer the best value, you have to find one that rates well in the gamut space. (Read reviews of specific laptops to get the specs )Nits is brightness and is somewhat important. You should not edit with the brightness too high. For more reading check this out.

https://www.msi.com/blog/laptops-101-what-goes-into-selecting-an-ideal-laptop-display-for-content-creators
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/everything-you-need-to-know-about-laptop-displays/
https://www.eizo.com/library/basics/lcd_monitor_color_gamut/
While the type of monitor has importance, sometime... (show quote)



Thank you Rich, as I've been researching, I have seen the specs regarding color accuracy and will be a factor. So many specs, so many options, so many decisions. Still have to follow LS's suggestions, trying to keep it simple but still best bang for the buck...Cheers Rich

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Jun 23, 2022 11:01:29   #
r1ch Loc: Colorado
 
Blaster34 wrote:
Thank you Rich, as I've been researching, I have seen the specs regarding color accuracy and will be a factor. So many specs, so many options, so many decisions. Still have to follow LS's suggestions, trying to keep it simple but still best bang for the buck...Cheers Rich


Good luck to you I use the laptop the same way you do, for editing with no monitor connected to it. I personaly have a desktop with a good monitor. If you are going to connect a monitor to your laptop later great but if you are going to edit with a laptop right now. KISS is good but consider this. One monitor allows for wider viewing angles. I just look straight at the monitor so this for ME is not an important feature because I can move my laptop and center it. The other is response time. Unless you are gaming, response time is not important unless the mouse is leaving trails which most current laptop monitors do not do. Nits or brightness is important but if you move to a darker room it is not an issue but if you work in bright rooms or outside, you need to get a brighter monitor

But if you don't have a wide color gamut and accuracy. When you edit then print or post images to the web, what everyone else will see will not be what you seen on your monitor. No amount of calibration with a monitor calibrator is going to fix that problem. What I am saying it is the most important factor if you are editing images. If you playing games on your laptop, you probably won't care about gamut but if you are editing it should be top on you list. This is what I think is important and photo editors think as well.There are workarounds for the other issues but the only way to fix a limited color gamut issue is to add and external monitor that is good to your laptop. The good thing is more expensive laptops are going to come with good laptop monitors. It is when you are looking at lower priced models when you run into color gamut/accuracy issues. I bought my 8core 16 thread AMD discrete Nvidia graphics card 16gb ram gaming laptop for $850 on sale at Christmas time. It had great color gamut and Nits. But other laptops in that price range had terrible monitors on them and were inaccurate. So a lot lower priced laptops have terrible monitors, a few don't. But even higher end laptops can come with terrible monitors (though less often so you have to always check). In my humble opinion of course.

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Jun 23, 2022 11:23:05   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
r1ch wrote:
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When you edit then print or post images to the web, what everyone else will see will not be what you seen on your monitor. No amount of calibration with a monitor calibrator is going to fix that problem. ...
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Jun 23, 2022 13:00:02   #
MJPerini
 
Laptop displays have gotten a good deal better in recent years, but if you want one for Photo editing, try to find a laptop with an IPS display. You do not need 4k , but a wider Gamut is very nice to have.

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Jun 23, 2022 15:48:06   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
r1ch wrote:
Good luck to you I use the laptop the same way you do, for editing with no monitor connected to it. I personaly have a desktop with a good monitor. If you are going to connect a monitor to your laptop later great but if you are going to edit with a laptop right now. KISS is good but consider this. One monitor allows for wider viewing angles. I just look straight at the monitor so this for ME is not an important feature because I can move my laptop and center it. The other is response time. Unless you are gaming, response time is not important unless the mouse is leaving trails which most current laptop monitors do not do. Nits or brightness is important but if you move to a darker room it is not an issue but if you work in bright rooms or outside, you need to get a brighter monitor

But if you don't have a wide color gamut and accuracy. When you edit then print or post images to the web, what everyone else will see will not be what you seen on your monitor. No amount of calibration with a monitor calibrator is going to fix that problem. What I am saying it is the most important factor if you are editing images. If you playing games on your laptop, you probably won't care about gamut but if you are editing it should be top on you list. This is what I think is important and photo editors think as well.There are workarounds for the other issues but the only way to fix a limited color gamut issue is to add and external monitor that is good to your laptop. The good thing is more expensive laptops are going to come with good laptop monitors. It is when you are looking at lower priced models when you run into color gamut/accuracy issues. I bought my 8core 16 thread AMD discrete Nvidia graphics card 16gb ram gaming laptop for $850 on sale at Christmas time. It had great color gamut and Nits. But other laptops in that price range had terrible monitors on them and were inaccurate. So a lot lower priced laptops have terrible monitors, a few don't. But even higher end laptops can come with terrible monitors (though less often so you have to always check). In my humble opinion of course.
Good luck to you I use the laptop the same way you... (show quote)



Thanks Rich, appreciate the input and comment. I have no PC and don't plan to buy one. Everything I do is on my laptop, if I still had one that worked. Narrowed it down to a couple 14" laptops with an IPS display and a 3:2 vs 16:9 display; HP, ASUS, Lenovo, all seem to be sufficient machines and reasonably priced. Thanks again Rich.

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Jun 23, 2022 15:50:01   #
BebuLamar
 
Blaster34 wrote:
Thanks Rich, appreciate the input and comment. I have no PC and don't plan to buy one. Everything I do is on my laptop, if I still had one that worked. Narrowed it down to a couple 14" laptops with an IPS display and a 3:2 vs 16:9 display; HP, ASUS, Lenovo, all seem to be sufficient machines and reasonably priced. Thanks again Rich.


I think only Microsoft has 3:2 laptop. Others made 4:3 or 16:9 or even 16:10.

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Jun 23, 2022 16:33:52   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I think only Microsoft has 3:2 laptop. Others made 4:3 or 16:9 or even 16:10.


Yes, Microsoft in their Surface series have 3:2 but so has HP in their Spectre series, Lenovo Think pads and ASUS Zenbooks....at least that's what they all claim. Thanks

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