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Jun 21, 2022 07:34:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Now that 4K TV are available, are there any TV shows that are 4K? Not that I need a TV - just wondering.

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Jun 21, 2022 09:09:35   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Now that 4K TV are available, are there any TV shows that are 4K? Not that I need a TV - just wondering.


Most streaming services have some 4K content, but in some cases, you have to pay extra for it. Disney+ doesn't charge extra for it, and I've watched some of it on that service. You can buy some 4K content on 4K Blu Ray discs. This requires a 4K Blu Ray player, which I have. These discs are typically recent blockbuster releases. For example, I have Frozen II in 4K on a disc. If you do ever buy a new TV, it will almost certainly be a 4K TV. That's just the trend. Don't forget that many new cameras and camcorders can record in 4K. If you can handle the file size and have a 4K video editor, that's the way to go depending on what you want to do with the video.

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Jun 21, 2022 09:15:03   #
BebuLamar
 
There are also 4K over the air broadcast too but requires your TV to have an ATSC 3 tuner.

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Jun 21, 2022 13:08:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
therwol wrote:
Don't forget that many new cameras and camcorders can record in 4K. If you can handle the file size and have a 4K video editor, that's the way to go depending on what you want to do with the video.


That's what got me wondering about 4K TV shows. I noticed that Amazon is selling some 4K DVDs - at a higher price than Blu-Ray.

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Jun 21, 2022 13:21:29   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That's what got me wondering about 4K TV shows. I noticed that Amazon is selling some 4K DVDs - at a higher price than Blu-Ray.


I shot 4K videos with my iphone. The video looks good on the 4K TV. I don't have software or computer that can do editing though.

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Jun 21, 2022 13:37:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I shot 4K videos with my iphone. The video looks good on the 4K TV. I don't have software or computer that can do editing though.


I wonder if most current video processing software can deal with 4K. I'm (currently) satisfied with what I have - 1080 TV, etc. I remember when 1080 was a big deal.

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Jun 21, 2022 14:03:10   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if most current video processing software can deal with 4K. I'm (currently) satisfied with what I have - 1080 TV, etc. I remember when 1080 was a big deal.


There are many different video editing programs out there. I would defer to someone with experience in 4K editing. I put some 4K video into the old Windows Live Movie Maker. Surprisingly, it took it, but it wouldn't let me save the output at anything greater than 1080. I'm not shooting 4K anyway. I was just "playing" with my Nikon D850 one day. I wouldn't use that camera otherwise for video.

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Jun 21, 2022 14:29:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
therwol wrote:
There are many different video editing programs out there. I would defer to someone with experience in 4K editing. I put some 4K video into the old Windows Live Movie Maker. Surprisingly, it took it, but it wouldn't let me save the output at anything greater than 1080. I'm not shooting 4K anyway. I was just "playing" with my Nikon D850 one day. I wouldn't use that camera otherwise for video.


I just checked, and Cyberlink's PowerDirector has been 4K-capable for several years.

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Jun 21, 2022 14:50:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Now that 4K TV are available, are there any TV shows that are 4K? Not that I need a TV - just wondering.


Tons of 4K is available on YouTube, and other streaming services. About a third of what I watch online is in 4K. At the right viewing distance, with the right program material, it is stunning.

In May, I produced a 4K video class reunion slide show from very high resolution scans and digital camera captures of slides, prints, and negatives. It is marvelous to watch in 4K, but the 1080P version looks fine. On an iPad or iPhone, the 540P version looks fine, too.

It is actually getting hard to find new 1080P TVs larger than 43" these days. There's no demand for them, so they're too expensive to make.

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Jun 21, 2022 16:28:32   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if most current video processing software can deal with 4K. I'm (currently) satisfied with what I have - 1080 TV, etc. I remember when 1080 was a big deal.


Yes they can but they need quite a lot of processing power. My computer isn't fast enough.

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Jun 21, 2022 21:03:13   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if most current video processing software can deal with 4K. I'm (currently) satisfied with what I have - 1080 TV, etc. I remember when 1080 was a big deal.

Since I am one of her longer term renters my landlady just upgraded me from a 32" 1080p TV to a 43" 4K TV. I watch Xfiniti cable, Prime Video (came free when I signed up with Metro PCS phone service) and Netflix (that I pay for).

I don't know how much actual 4K material I am watching, but I can tell you everything seems noticeably sharper with the new TV.

A side note on the free Prime with the phone service. I figured it might be for one year given the annual cost of Prime, but I've had it for a little over 2-1/2 years.

Been great with the free shipping, but my last order didn't go well...they sent me the wrong item and replaced it a few days later with the same wrong item. So I have 2 wrong items boxed up in my room waiting for me to drop them off at the UPS Store for the free return. The second time they did not offer a replacement, just a refund 7 days after they receive it from me. Really ticked me off that they didn't get it right with the replacement.

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Jun 22, 2022 06:31:57   #
keywest305
 
I upgraded to 4k since my tv was 20 yrs old. I had to swap boxes with Verizon to their Verizon 1 box. It was 10 more a month. They have certain channels that are 4k only and also if your watching a show and its on in 4k it tells you on the screen to switch to this channel to see it in 4k. It is beautiful but a ways to go to get all channels up

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Jun 22, 2022 07:03:23   #
Red6
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Now that 4K TV are available, are there any TV shows that are 4K? Not that I need a TV - just wondering.


Here is a tidbit of information you may want to research before you start streaming 4K or any other high def programs.

We have Comcast and stream all our TV using Hulu, Disney+, Netflix, Youtube, and Apple TV. During the pandemic we were using the TV more than usual and we starting using up our allotted data each month.

Turns out that Comcast has a ceiling limit on how much data you can receive each month on their lower tier plans. It is a lot of data but their is a limit unless you are on an "unlimited" plan which is more expensive. We received several warnings that we were close to exceeding our data limit and would be switched to a higher plan or be charged for the overages.

After researching the issue I found that most of the streaming channels stream at the highest definition level by default. None were at 4K but the highest definition available. The higher definition, the more data is used for a given program. If your streaming provider is set to deliver the highest definition for all you programming you will be using significantly more data. Depending on your TV you may or may not even be able to tell the difference between the highest def available and a lower def setting.

I adjusted each provider's video to a lower definition with little change to the quality of the programming. I adjusted it to a mid level and neither of us noticed a much change. Now as each month's internet bill arrives we are well below our data limit with no danger of overage fees.

I imagine going to 4K would be great if your TV supports it but be aware that if you are on a metered or measured internet plan you could go through your data allotment much quicker than a lower definition.

But if you are paying for an unlimited data and your provider can deliver the higher data rate then try it out!

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Jun 22, 2022 09:30:11   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Now that 4K TV are available, are there any TV shows that are 4K? Not that I need a TV - just wondering.


The streaming services have lots of 4k content and it looks superb on large TV. Note that Netflix say you need 25 Mb/s internet for 4k

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Jun 22, 2022 09:31:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Red6 wrote:
Here is a tidbit of information you may want to research before you start streaming 4K or any other high def programs.

We have Comcast and stream all our TV using Hulu, Disney+, Netflix, Youtube, and Apple TV. During the pandemic we were using the TV more than usual and we starting using up our allotted data each month.

Turns out that Comcast has a ceiling limit on how much data you can receive each month on their lower tier plans. It is a lot of data but their is a limit unless you are on an "unlimited" plan which is more expensive. We received several warnings that we were close to exceeding our data limit and would be switched to a higher plan or be charged for the overages.

After researching the issue I found that most of the streaming channels stream at the highest definition level by default. None were at 4K but the highest definition available. The higher definition, the more data is used for a given program. If your streaming provider is set to deliver the highest definition for all you programming you will be using significantly more data. Depending on your TV you may or may not even be able to tell the difference between the highest def available and a lower def setting.

I adjusted each provider's video to a lower definition with little change to the quality of the programming. I adjusted it to a mid level and neither of us noticed a much change. Now as each month's internet bill arrives we are well below our data limit with no danger of overage fees.

I imagine going to 4K would be great if your TV supports it but be aware that if you are on a metered or measured internet plan you could go through your data allotment much quicker than a lower definition.

But if you are paying for an unlimited data and your provider can deliver the higher data rate then try it out!
Here is a tidbit of information you may want to re... (show quote)


I hate the way they limit data and speeds.

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