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Jun 18, 2022 08:08:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
So true.



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Jun 18, 2022 08:15:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Jun 18, 2022 08:19:06   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I think they should bring back party lines.🤔

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Jun 18, 2022 08:23:34   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Ventura County, California
 
And it almost always had connectivity with a clear voice. I hate digital phone calls. In disaster the old POTS Line telephones still remain more reliable than digital... all day long.

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Jun 18, 2022 08:46:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
So true.


Well... yes. But I'd never go back.

When we moved from Charlotte to the Piedmont Triad area (Winston-Salem, Greensboro, High Point...) in 2014, we dropped our land line. We should have dropped it in 2012, because each of our family members had at least a dumb cell phone by then. At that point, all we were getting on the land line were prank calls, spam calls, hang-ups, and political ads.

In 2020, I worked for the Census. Due to the politically charged environment, huge swaths of the population seemingly did not want to be counted, so some bureaucrat decided to recycle phone numbers from the 2010 census and have the enumerators call them when no one answered a door. I had about 19 enumerators reporting to me... We had about a 0.5% success rate with those old phone numbers. Almost all of them had changed or been disconnected. That was a great distraction tool for those who wanted to scuttle the census and avoid counting the folks who could benefit the absolute most from being counted.

Smartphones are the stuff of Star Trek grade science fiction. Unfortunately, I don't think humans have evolved socially to the point where we understand how to deal with their unintended behavioral consequences.

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Jun 18, 2022 08:51:28   #
MrBossHK Loc: Low Country of South Carolina
 
NJFrank wrote:
I think they should bring back party lines.🤔


When you really think about it, our present phone lines are not strictly "private" lines with the likes of Google, Amazon, FB and maybe even "Big Brother" monitoring our words and actions we probably had more authentic "privacy" back in the days of party lines. Ain't Technology something else? (tongue-in-cheek).

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Jun 18, 2022 10:12:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
And it almost always had connectivity with a clear voice. I hate digital phone calls. In disaster the old POTS Line telephones still remain more reliable than digital... all day long.



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Jun 18, 2022 11:09:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:


It depends. We had a tremendous thunderstorm yesterday with hurricane force winds that blew down a lot of trees, and with them, utility lines. Our power was out for five hours. About 8% of our local grid was knocked out. My smartphone service worked, despite the power outage. Now, granted, if the phone lines remain up, land lines still work. But wind that is likely to blow a tree against utility lines and take the poles down will knock out everything except a cell tower backed up with generators.

I only get one bar of LTE at the house, but that's enough to make calls and text.

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Jun 18, 2022 12:37:02   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
It depends. We had a tremendous thunderstorm yesterday with hurricane force winds that blew down a lot of trees, and with them, utility lines. Our power was out for five hours. About 8% of our local grid was knocked out. My smartphone service worked, despite the power outage. Now, granted, if the phone lines remain up, land lines still work. But wind that is likely to blow a tree against utility lines and take the poles down will knock out everything except a cell tower backed up with generators.

I only get one bar of LTE at the house, but that's enough to make calls and text.
It depends. We had a tremendous thunderstorm yeste... (show quote)


We have Spectrum here, and they provide only a "spec" of service. I could flip a coin to see whether landline or cell phone would be working.

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Jun 18, 2022 12:43:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
We have Spectrum here, and they provide only a "spec" of service. I could flip a coin to see whether landline or cell phone would be working.


After last night's storm, our Spectrum 200Mbps service that has never been more than 127Mbps is down to about 24Mbps!

Fortunately, we have a local competitor with fiber, which we can switch to soon.

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Jun 18, 2022 21:22:53   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
In an emergency, it’s surprising how robust landline service is. Those central offices are as hardened as a modern data center, and in addition to generators, the last one I was in still had banks of batteries for backup. Many years ago when hurricane Fran came directly inland almost 150 miles to Raleigh with 70 -80 mph winds, it looked like a bomb had gone off in the city. Combined with 12+ inches of rain, all those huge Oaks that had never seen wind like that came down (we lost 34 trees). Power was out for two weeks, cable for 4, and cellphone service was sporadic because of the loss of some towers and the big overload on use, but the one thing that worked the whole time was the POTS (plain old telephone service). There are lots more towers now and switching capability plus more carriers now, so things may have changed. I actually still have a landline, but it’s VOIP and part of my internet package, and if the cable internet goes out, it’s useless, but I keep it because it reports the address automatically in a medical or police emergency, and for long conversations anywhere in the house, the quality is better, no battery to run down and the house wireless phone signal is more robust.

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Jun 19, 2022 08:16:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
My cable service has been awful lately. Even with a cable running to the TV, it has to buffer. (Spectrum)

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Jun 19, 2022 09:24:12   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
burkphoto wrote:
Well... yes. But I'd never go back.

"Smartphones are the stuff of Star Trek grade science fiction. Unfortunately, I don't think humans have evolved socially to the point where we understand how to deal with their unintended behavioral consequences."




Bill makes what to me, is a very astute observation. When I see an entire generation walking around with their heads bowed looking at their smart phones and who seems able to communicate with other human beings only through twitter texts, I wonder what the overall effect will be, when they're running the world? Will smart phones someday be looked upon as the social/psychological equivalent of cigarettes?

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Jun 19, 2022 09:54:53   #
St.Mary's
 
Not long ago our "land-line" became a VOIP, and technically speaking is no longer a land-line and dies when the cable service is down and has other digital problems.

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Jun 19, 2022 10:28:18   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
St.Mary's wrote:
Not long ago our "land-line" became a VOIP, and technically speaking is no longer a land-line and dies when the cable service is down and has other digital problems.


Same with us. I finally stuck my old land line phone down in the basement because it will go dead along with the computer, when the power goes off. My smart phone works (poorly, though) when the power's off but it was always reassuring back in the "old days" when, if the lights went out you picked up the phone you still had a dial tone.

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