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Jun 16, 2022 14:39:39   #
Jay Pat Loc: Round Rock, Texas, USA
 
Pulling out of the Chama Yard. Summer 2021.
The mountain and forest areas the trains run thru are currently extremely dry.
For this reason, the railroad has pushed back opening day to July 1st.
Everyone is expecting the "monsoon" rain season to moisten up the forest by the end of June.
We'll see what happens.
No rain and the start date will probably be pushed back again.
Pat


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Jun 16, 2022 14:45:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Jun 16, 2022 15:03:44   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
Jay Pat wrote:
Pulling out of the Chama Yard. Summer 2021.
The mountain and forest areas the trains run thru are currently extremely dry.
For this reason, the railroad has pushed back opening day to July 1st.
Everyone is expecting the "monsoon" rain season to moisten up the forest by the end of June.
We'll see what happens.
No rain and the start date will probably be pushed back again.
Pat



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Jun 16, 2022 15:10:33   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
Jay Pat wrote:
Pulling out of the Chama Yard. Summer 2021.
The mountain and forest areas the trains run thru are currently extremely dry.
For this reason, the railroad has pushed back opening day to July 1st.
Everyone is expecting the "monsoon" rain season to moisten up the forest by the end of June.
We'll see what happens.
No rain and the start date will probably be pushed back again.
Pat

I will keep my fingers crossed, but the monsoon hasn't been that big of a deal the last couple of years. So...get your dancing shoes on and practice your rain dance routines.

I practiced mine the last couple of years and have been told that my dancing is so bad the rain stayed away - so I promised I wouldn't do any rain dancing this year.

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Jun 16, 2022 15:34:43   #
Jay Pat Loc: Round Rock, Texas, USA
 
fredpnm wrote:
I will keep my fingers crossed, but the monsoon hasn't been that big of a deal the last couple of years. So...get your dancing shoes on and practice your rain dance routines.

I practiced mine the last couple of years and have been told that my dancing is so bad the rain stayed away - so I promised I wouldn't do any rain dancing this year.


I see Chama/mountain area, has a good chance of rain this weekend.
We'll see.

Thanks, everyone for looking and posting!!!
Pat

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Jun 16, 2022 15:39:06   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
Jay Pat wrote:
I see Chama/mountain area, has a good chance of rain this weekend.
We'll see.

Thanks, everyone for looking and posting!!!
Pat

We get a good deal of virga rain - lots of wind but little of the rain makes it to the ground...I hope that will not be case this year.

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Jun 16, 2022 16:06:34   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Nice shot, Pat.

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Jun 16, 2022 16:24:38   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Really nice, Pat.

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Jun 17, 2022 07:28:54   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
Questions for the train experts. Do standard gauge and narrow gauge use the same rails, just spaced differently? Could a third rail be laid that rather than providing electricity like in subways would allow both narrow and standard gauge trains to run the same segment of a route?

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Jun 17, 2022 11:19:10   #
Jay Pat Loc: Round Rock, Texas, USA
 
"Questions for the train experts. Do standard gauge and narrow gauge use the same rails, just spaced differently? Could a third rail be laid that rather than providing electricity like in subways would allow both narrow and standard gauge trains to run the same segment of a route?"

Yes. In the "old" days they did where the lines overlapped. At the other end of the Cumbres & Toltec in Antonito, Colorado they had dual gauge between Alamosa and Antonito. In the Antonito yard, there is a small section of dual gauge today.
Also, there were Idler Cars that had different coupler mounts. So the Idler Car was a "coupler adapter".
I hope this helps!
Pat

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Jun 17, 2022 12:39:49   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
Cool. Thank you. I figured yes but didn't know and thought it a perfect time to ask.

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Jun 18, 2022 10:10:10   #
JayRay Loc: Missouri
 
Jay Pat wrote:
Pulling out of the Chama Yard. Summer 2021.
The mountain and forest areas the trains run thru are currently extremely dry.
For this reason, the railroad has pushed back opening day to July 1st.
Everyone is expecting the "monsoon" rain season to moisten up the forest by the end of June.
We'll see what happens.
No rain and the start date will probably be pushed back again.
Pat


Thanks for the update Pat!
Keeping fingers crossed!
I thought that the Cumbres & Toltec RR was being forced to convert to fuel oil rather than coal to reduce the fire danger (like the Durango Silverton RR was also forced to do)?

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Jun 18, 2022 12:45:21   #
Jay Pat Loc: Round Rock, Texas, USA
 
JayRay wrote:

I thought that the Cumbres & Toltec RR was being forced to convert to fuel oil rather than coal to reduce the fire danger (like the Durango Silverton RR was also forced to do)?


I have no first-hand knowledge of exactly what's going one. The coal that they use comes from the west side of Durango, CO. How much longer they are going to be in operation seems to be a question. So, source for coal. Also, Durango forest fire is on their minds.
They have converted one locomotive to oil. They have the complete kit to convert another locomotive. The railroad commission voted to look into getting one of the K-37s running and running on oil.
With a K-37 they could add one more passenger car on the regular train out of Chama without having to use a second locomotive (and crew) as they do now. They have already moved some passenger cars around in the last few weeks with the oil burner K-36.
The K-37 project may get moved up with this spring's drought. We'll see what happens. I try to keep up with the commissioner's meetings.
Pat

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Jun 19, 2022 02:54:34   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Good one.

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Jul 3, 2022 13:25:33   #
JayRay Loc: Missouri
 
Jay Pat wrote:
I have no first-hand knowledge of exactly what's going one. The coal that they use comes from the west side of Durango, CO. How much longer they are going to be in operation seems to be a question. So, source for coal. Also, Durango forest fire is on their minds.
They have converted one locomotive to oil. They have the complete kit to convert another locomotive. The railroad commission voted to look into getting one of the K-37s running and running on oil.
With a K-37 they could add one more passenger car on the regular train out of Chama without having to use a second locomotive (and crew) as they do now. They have already moved some passenger cars around in the last few weeks with the oil burner K-36.
The K-37 project may get moved up with this spring's drought. We'll see what happens. I try to keep up with the commissioner's meetings.
Pat
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Thanks for the update Pat!

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