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What "learning curve" ? Its just a fiction of the UHH herd mind.

Its only natural that this thread has gone astray. The original query had very little substance, as shown conclusively before the end of page one.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Yes that's probably it. They are in the business of making money and the camera business has not overburdened with profits lately.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Yes and and you can throw DSLRs in there too. That is the "reality bites" part.

I understand now. It might be possible to build a Z to F, and even make a small profit. However in todays shrinking market, companies have to carefully consider how best to use precious and limited development resources. They need to use those resources in a way to maximize the profit / NRE_cost ratio. It's a matter of survival.

I was actually surprised to see the Z30, which is a new development, come out.

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catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

I see three very large and heavy mirrorless cameras with battery packs as large and as heavy as My 1DX 3 Canons in your photo... Hmmm
It will be another year before Canon releases their new flagship, so before that time I will enjoy the superb performance of my DLSR. But I will embrace the new mirrorless in 2023.
As for image quality between the two types, there is no difference. Any kind of evf preview is not a big deal for me. With no buffer limit to worry about with the 1DX, this DLSR has a clear advantage there.
Times are changing for sure, but it has taken time to work out the bugs. My time with Fuji has been frustrating when it came to auto-focus accuracy in the past, but I look forward to the improvements being made in the new mirrorless designs.
Weight has a clear advantage, but isn't it funny how many of the top end mirrorless are evolving to bigger and bulkier designs with some hefty new lenses...

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Likewise my 5Dsr displaced by a Z7.

Never missed the "lost" 5MP. The "Curse of the Canon" was its lack of a tilt screen cuz I never trusted the SLR system and used only the LV monitor.

That was NOT "a transition". Just one body replacing another. The whole idea that users must suffer thru a transition from SLR to EVF is just social media BS.

gwilliams6

Nikon DSLR Production Shutdown | DSLR Camera Near Extinction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q0Cp9XVOGk

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Please stop spreading fake news. That headline is wrong. Production is not shut down.
The link posted is a u-tube video incorrectly reporting on an article from NIKKEI ASIA a business news site. The narrator of the youtube article above confusingly conflates ending development with ending production. They are not the same thing.

DSLR Development has ended. Production of existing models continues.

gwilliams6

Wrong, they are not anyway as large and heavy as my former Canon EOS 1DX or my former Nikon D5, look up the weights and sizes before you make false statements. AND all my Sony battery packs can be removed and the cameras used without them, making them even smaller and lighter that ANY Canon EOS 1 DX or Nikon D5 could ever dream of being. And Sony isn't bulking up. But Nikon Z9 was hefty to give comfort to heavy-brick DSLR users as they transitioned. LOL .

I will never use an integrated grip pro camera ever again, and my back and neck thank me.

I have no buffer limit with my Sony A1 using CFExpress Type A cards as my buffer clears as fast as I shoot. Again do better research before you make statements .

I you really had shot with a pro mirrorless with all the advantages of a top EVF like in my A1, with 9.44 million dots with 240 fps refresh rate, you would know that they have no blackouts even shooting at 30 fps (NO DSLR OVF can EVER do that with that flopping mirror) and give you preview and review that no DSLR can ever do.

I have owned and shot professionally with the best pro DSLRs from Nikon and Canon for decades around the world, and now shoot with top pro mirrorless gear and my mirrorless gear is far superior in so many ways, innovations performance, superior autofocus, better tracking, faster frames per second, true silent shooting (and with stacked sensors, no rolling shutter in silent shooting).

Pros around the world are moving to pro mirrorless and dumping their DSLRS. We know top mirrorless gear gives us a competitive advantage over DSLR shooters. I enjoy all those distinct advantages ever time I use my cameras around the world.

Just listen to and read what top News Services like Associated Press, Canada Press, all Gannett Media, UK Press and AFP (Agence France Press) have to say why they all moved over to mirrorless in the past 20 months for all their staff photographers and staff videographers worldwide, and it wasn't because anyone paid them to move to mirrorless.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/


You will move over also, give it time. There is a new reality and all the major makers are embracing it.

Cheers and best to you.

gwilliams6

The headline is click bait by them for sure, but if you actually watch the video all the way through, they do say that Nikon will continue to make current models, but wont release any new DSLRs and Canon is doing the same.

Use your DSLRs until they break or until you cant get parts to fix them. That is happening already as many repair shops no longer can get parts to fix some models of DSLRs. That has really frustrated a longtime Nikon pro friend of mine that cant get his venerable pro DSLRs fixed anymore. That is the real start of extinction IMHO.

Cheers and best to you

gwilliams6

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Consider the source.

tybeejim Loc: Tybee Island, GA

Agree. The eye is still the same. The bits n pieces between the eye and real
Life are incidental.