Joexx

I recently bought some Topaz software (Sharpen,Gig,and DeNoise). I am using them as plug-ins from Lightroom.
I am trying to understand the workflow. They seem to have a major difference to when I use Lightroom and then Edit in Photoshop. For Example:
If (From LR) I highlight an image and select " Edit in Photoshop", the image is automatically opened in PS. If I edit the photo & try some edits etc.,and then decide I do not want to use anything I did and then exit without saving. Photoshop does NOT save anything. No new PSD is left over from my edits.

If I do a similar sequence and select (From LR) "Edit in Topaz ...", try some of the topaz adjustments/edits there seems to be NO way to exit Topaz without Topaz already having created a rather large (100MB +) file.
This happens even if I select "cancel" and then "close without saving".
I always need to manually go to Lightroom and delete the newly created Tiff. Not hard to do, but if I am not careful, I can end up with many large extra Tiff files that I really do not want, and I feel kind of an annoying extra step.

My question is: is there anyway around this? Thanks

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Consider the workflow ideas from this Topaz training video at: https://youtu.be/AzJavAm-Bbw

Joexx

do they give me a way so I do not have to delete a TIF file every time?

R.G. Loc: Scotland

I think you'll find that the large file is created after you call the external editor (Topaz) but before you start working in Topaz. In other words it's Lightroom that's creating the large file and it's doing that as soon as you call the external editor. Presumably the reason it doesn't do that with Ps is that they have another protocol because they are both Adobe products. You'll probably find that Lr produces the intermediate file when it calls any other external editor other than an Adobe product.

It's a simple procedure to get rid of the intermediate file. Just make sure you're not selecting the original file for deletion. The original file and its Lr adjustments (if any) will still be there in Lr. Checking the film strip along the bottom is the simplest way to keep an eye on what's happening. That's the first place you'll see the intermediate file when it's created. As far as I know, the intermediate file will always be a TIFF.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Try watching. The idea is to start in either LR or the Topaz module with a RAW file and using a DNG to communicate back n forth. The process is shown on both Mac and Windows, where how the softwares talk is slightly different, but works the same overall.

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

This morning brought an amusing set of posts pertaining to what is on my list to work through. I just replaced a 10 year old PC that couldn’t be dragged any further into the current world. I always kept the OS updated, replaced all of the storage with larger SATA SSD drives and had 16GB memory from the get go. BUT the USB 3.0 hardware failed, the GPU never was compatible with where Adobe and others are and the mother board couldn’t accommodate one that was capable. So I had Puget Systems build one to my specifications which will likely out live me. And I sprung for the Topaz AI triad.

After a couple of rough months in my real world in am in the process of carefully moving to the new machine this time with tedious discipline. Almost done and starting to look at integrating the Topaz suite with the Adobe centric workflow.

The basic fact is a raw file is raw. Only a camera can create a raw file. Once a raw file is “cooked” it cannot be saved as a raw file. You can’t uncook an egg. Your best bet in to create a 16 bit TIFF file. You can’t recover the recorded data lost in adjusting the white balance, color space, sharpening, and noise reduction to name a few. That is why you tell LrC to the file type and color space to create and send to Ps when you “edit in Photoshop” and subsequently Ps returns either a TIFF or PSD… to your LrC folders and catalog. (I omit editing edit as a smart object because I have never tried that.) So what workflow do you follow? Presumably Topaz AI apps do a better job if fed a raw file but then must cook their processing into a limited editable file. Is DNG really a solution to this conundrum? Help! 80 year old brain is smoking!

drsdayton Loc: Dayton, Ohio

Thank you for that link. Very helpful...It seems I should change my Lightroom Classic - DeNoise workflow so that instead of "editing in DeNoise," I just drop onto the dock icon. That allows me to save in DNG instead of having LR create a TIF (which has always annoyed me).

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

Ok, so while I was laboriously typing my post I should have tried this link which looks like it smooths my anxiety.

To quote Homer Simpson, “Duh”.

Joexx

Yes, thanks, I tested it with another editor & you seem to be correct. I never noticed that before. It is not just a Topaz "issue" but it does seem to happen for other editors, so I agree with you that PS is probably the exception and not the "rule". Too bad. I am well aware of how to properly delete images from within LR, but I find it a PIA when I didn't really do any editing.

Joexx

Jack ???? your response has little or nothing to do with my question. I think you probably posted a response to a different question

R.G. Loc: Scotland

You're welcome. If you're like me you probably get a lot of practice deleting files .