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May 11, 2022 10:53:24   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
In the 1970’s the government instituted a program called the ‘war on drugs', that still continues today.

50 years later this is the status: More than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021, up 15 percent from the previous year, according to figures released Wednesday by the National Center for Health Statistics.

“Ah yes, another successful government program.”

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May 11, 2022 11:13:41   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
travelwp wrote:
In the 1970’s the government instituted a program called the ‘war on drugs', that still continues today.

50 years later this is the status: More than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021, up 15 percent from the previous year, according to figures released Wednesday by the National Center for Health Statistics.

“Ah yes, another successful government program.”


Good point but the quote should read “Ah yes, another successful COSTLY government program.”

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May 11, 2022 11:33:27   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
fantom wrote:
Good point but the quote should read “Ah yes, another successful COSTLY government program.”


Yes, your statement is better than mine !

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May 11, 2022 17:18:39   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
travelwp wrote:
In the 1970’s the government instituted a program called the ‘war on drugs', that still continues today.

50 years later this is the status: More than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021, up 15 percent from the previous year, according to figures released Wednesday by the National Center for Health Statistics.

“Ah yes, another successful government program.”

When are you going to try and blame it on Democrats?

Started by Nixon, enhanced by Regan.

The real reason for the war on drugs? Read this:

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and b****s with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

— John Ehrlichman, to Dan Baum for Harper's Magazine in 1994, about President Richard Nixon's war on drugs, declared in 1971."

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May 12, 2022 10:22:22   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
It should be obvious that you can't have a war with an inanimate object.

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May 12, 2022 10:42:21   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Fotoartist wrote:
It should be obvious that you can't have a war with an inanimate object.


That's why we can't have a war with Biden.

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May 12, 2022 12:21:31   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
flip1948 wrote:
When are you going to try and blame it on Democrats?

Started by Nixon, enhanced by Regan.

The real reason for the war on drugs? Read this:

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and b****s with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

— John Ehrlichman, to Dan Baum for Harper's Magazine in 1994, about President Richard Nixon's war on drugs, declared in 1971."
When are you going to try and blame it on Democrat... (show quote)


Who is "Regan"?

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May 12, 2022 13:33:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
fantom wrote:
Who is "Regan"?


Thank you. I wondered that myself. I wonder if he didn't mean President Ronald Reagan.

Dennis

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May 12, 2022 13:41:32   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Thank you. I wondered that myself. I wonder if he didn't mean President Ronald Reagan.

Dennis


I doubt if he has any idea. He doesn't sound like a rocket scientist. Anyone who quotes John E. decades after the fact and tries to use him to attack present day GOP cannot be too astute.

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May 12, 2022 18:19:51   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Not astute, certainly.

More like Ass-Stupid . . . .

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May 12, 2022 18:28:03   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
fantom wrote:
I doubt if he has any idea. He doesn't sound like a rocket scientist. Anyone who quotes John E. decades after the fact and tries to use him to attack present day GOP cannot be too astute.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the so called war on drugs was started by Republicans (Nixon and Reagan) and was based on a lie as confirmed by John E. in a 1994 interview. He should know since he was there and probably participated in it.

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May 12, 2022 18:40:28   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
flip1948 wrote:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the so called war on drugs was started by Republicans (Nixon and Reagan) and was based on a lie as confirmed by John E. in a 1994 interview. He should know since he was there and probably participated in it.


And if he participated in it then what is his excuse now for going against it? Did he participate in it and is now trying to clean up his name for wh**ever bad you and he think happened. A bit late now isn't it. If it was bad and if he participated then he has nothing coming does he. Snitching on others long gone only makes him look like a cheese eating ass.

Certainly the federal government SHOULD be doing something positive against illegal drugs that are literally k*****g Americans by the millions. Yet your attitude seems to say it was a bad thing. What to you then would have been a good thing. What is your suggestion to stop drug use in America? Do you believe as in some European countries to give addicts all the heroin and other hard drugs they want along with a clean syringe and nice place to use these drugs? Does that make people want to stop using drugs? Not in my experience.

Dennis

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May 12, 2022 18:58:24   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And if he participated in it then what is his excuse now for going against it? Did he participate in it and is now trying to clean up his name for wh**ever bad you and he think happened. A bit late now isn't it. If it was bad and if he participated then he has nothing coming does he. Snitching on others long gone only makes him look like a cheese eating ass.

Certainly the federal government SHOULD be doing something positive against illegal drugs that are literally k*****g Americans by the millions. Yet your attitude seems to say it was a bad thing. What to you then would have been a good thing. What is your suggestion to stop drug use in America? Do you believe as in some European countries to give addicts all the heroin and other hard drugs they want along with a clean syringe and nice place to use these drugs? Does that make people want to stop using drugs? Not in my experience.

Dennis
And if he participated in it then what is his excu... (show quote)

And just what is my attitude?

I posted asking the OP how he was going to blame this on Democrats...as he usually does. I then provided some background that it had nothing to do with Democrats...plain and simple.

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May 13, 2022 10:48:26   #
jcboy3
 
travelwp wrote:
In the 1970’s the government instituted a program called the ‘war on drugs', that still continues today.

50 years later this is the status: More than 100,000 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2021, up 15 percent from the previous year, according to figures released Wednesday by the National Center for Health Statistics.

“Ah yes, another successful government program.”


In June 1971, Nixon (a Republican) officially declared a “War on Drugs,” stating that drug abuse was “public enemy number one.”

Nixon lost Vietnam. Nixon lost the War on Drugs.

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May 13, 2022 12:05:14   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And if he participated in it then what is his excuse now for going against it? Did he participate in it and is now trying to clean up his name for wh**ever bad you and he think happened. A bit late now isn't it. If it was bad and if he participated then he has nothing coming does he. Snitching on others long gone only makes him look like a cheese eating ass.

Certainly the federal government SHOULD be doing something positive against illegal drugs that are literally k*****g Americans by the millions. Yet your attitude seems to say it was a bad thing. What to you then would have been a good thing. What is your suggestion to stop drug use in America? Do you believe as in some European countries to give addicts all the heroin and other hard drugs they want along with a clean syringe and nice place to use these drugs? Does that make people want to stop using drugs? Not in my experience.

Dennis
And if he participated in it then what is his excu... (show quote)

Has the so called “ war on drugs” stopped people from using.

It always starts with demand .

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