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Little Ones Are Hard To Catch
Apr 4, 2022 23:14:30   #
LittleRed
 
Laid up with a broken knee, weather is bad (seems like every day), gotta keep busy so spent some time trying to catch a fair to middling pic of a small songbird called a Common Redpoll (these little buggers are fast). Got a few, not as good as I hoped for but considering the weather conditions (heavy overcast, scattered snow squalls etc) they didn't turn out too bad. Wish I could have lessened the ISO but you take and use what the Lord giveth. I do not use any super PP program just a cheapy called PhotoPad and only spend less than a minute on each pic. So heres a few pics of my efforts. Critique is welcome as always. But I do realize that they are quite noisy.
But you never learn by not listening, right!!!

All pics taken using a Canon 90D with a Canon 100-400 Mark II

Little Red (Ron)


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Apr 5, 2022 08:38:09   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
LittleRed wrote:
...I do not use any super PP program just a cheapy called PhotoPad and only spend less than a minute on each pic....


Sorry to hear about the knee and hope it heals quickly and completely. I use Lightroom and could have cleaned up each of these in less than a minute too. Another minute could have made these shots outstanding. Shooting with a Canon 90D deserves better.

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Apr 5, 2022 11:07:05   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Really nice compositions.

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Apr 5, 2022 13:05:08   #
LittleRed
 
abc1234 wrote:
Sorry to hear about the knee and hope it heals quickly and completely. I use Lightroom and could have cleaned up each of these in less than a minute too. Another minute could have made these shots outstanding. Shooting with a Canon 90D deserves better.


Alas I agree that by using a much better PP program these pictures could be much more presentable. But I am not really interested in working with any upscale program like Lightroom. My main interest is as a Naturalist/Birder who uses my camera to record all wildlife I see. This data is then recorded with photos to websites such as iNaturalist and eBird (Cornell University). Normally I’m not really concerned as to the how good/bad my photos are but rather the data it contains. But I’m always interested in how to improve my picture taking ability. In this case I was just happy to be able to catch the little scoundrels on the wing. Like I said it was very overcast/dark with periods of heavy snow during this shoot. If the present flock sticks around for much better weather I’ll try and give it another go. (However the forecast shows basically no improvement for the next week or so with a call for more snow about the 10th of this month)🤬🤬🤬🤬.
I thank you kindly looking in and giving me your observation, tis appreciated.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Apr 5, 2022 13:06:35   #
LittleRed
 
kpmac wrote:
Really nice compositions.


Thank you kpmac for looking and commenting.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Apr 5, 2022 13:18:51   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
LittleRed wrote:
Alas I agree that by using a much better PP program these pictures could be much more presentable. But I am not really interested in working with any upscale program like Lightroom. My main interest is as a Naturalist/Birder who uses my camera to record all wildlife I see. This data is then recorded with photos to websites such as iNaturalist and eBird (Cornell University). Normally I’m not really concerned as to the how good/bad my photos are but rather the data it contains. But I’m always interested in how to improve my picture taking ability. In this case I was just happy to be able to catch the little scoundrels on the wing. Like I said it was very overcast/dark with periods of heavy snow during this shoot. If the present flock sticks around for much better weather I’ll try and give it another go. (However the forecast shows basically no improvement for the next week or so with a call for more snow about the 10th of this month)🤬🤬🤬🤬.
I thank you kindly looking in and giving me your observation, tis appreciated.

LittleRed (Ron)
Alas I agree that by using a much better PP progra... (show quote)


Thank you for your explanation. I now understand where you are coming from. You are lucky to have that variety. Ninety percent of what I get on my feeders are sparrows and finches. The state bird here is the cardinal. I might see one or two of them annually. I always like photographing birds even thou these are very difficult because they are so fast.

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Apr 5, 2022 22:03:26   #
photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State
 
LittleRed wrote:
Laid up with a broken knee, weather is bad (seems like every day), gotta keep busy so spent some time trying to catch a fair to middling pic of a small songbird called a Common Redpoll (these little buggers are fast). Got a few, not as good as I hoped for but considering the weather conditions (heavy overcast, scattered snow squalls etc) they didn't turn out too bad. Wish I could have lessened the ISO but you take and use what the Lord giveth. I do not use any super PP program just a cheapy called PhotoPad and only spend less than a minute on each pic. So heres a few pics of my efforts. Critique is welcome as always. But I do realize that they are quite noisy.
But you never learn by not listening, right!!!

All pics taken using a Canon 90D with a Canon 100-400 Mark II

Little Red (Ron)
Laid up with a broken knee, weather is bad (seems ... (show quote)


Starting with B&W film in my own darkroom , I learned that grain (and noise?) detracts very little from the perceived sharpness of a photo if the grain edges are crisply rendered. I view the grain phobia that I perceive among many as popularly overblown. Therefore, I think that your use of a "cheapy" post processing app to be NOT a disadvantage. Rather it seems me that your use of the cropping capability, that your "Cheapy" software must have, to be unfortunately utilized. It seems to me that each of the otherwise technically quite good photos could have been improved by providing a liittle more gazing space between the bird and the photo edge that is directly in front of the bird.

I know that my opinions are just that and only that and may be not mainstream but I felt it to be appropriate to share them even if only to offer the info that there's another way of thinking about the questions implied in your post.

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Apr 5, 2022 22:32:57   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
For the use you put them to, they are more than adequate.

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Apr 6, 2022 10:03:26   #
Chicago312 Loc: Western suburb, Chicago
 
Very nice photos. I would be quite pleased if I had been able to capture these shots. A few great photos are better than a hundred blurry shots.

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Apr 6, 2022 18:00:03   #
LittleRed
 
photogeneralist wrote:
Starting with B&W film in my own darkroom , I learned that grain (and noise?) detracts very little from the perceived sharpness of a photo if the grain edges are crisply rendered. I view the grain phobia that I perceive among many as popularly overblown. Therefore, I think that your use of a "cheapy" post processing app to be NOT a disadvantage. Rather it seems me that your use of the cropping capability, that your "Cheapy" software must have, to be unfortunately utilized. It seems to me that each of the otherwise technically quite good photos could have been improved by providing a liittle more gazing space between the bird and the photo edge that is directly in front of the bird.

I know that my opinions are just that and only that and may be not mainstream but I felt it to be appropriate to share them even if only to offer the info that there's another way of thinking about the questions implied in your post.
Starting with B&W film in my own darkroom , I ... (show quote)



Yes I agree that it would be better if I gave my feathered friends a wee more room. I guess that’s one of my failings, making the subject “fill the frame”. A bit of a bad habit but in some ways necessary for my purpose. Most of my pics are attached to birding reports sent to the eBird (Cornell Lab) website. These pics are then included in the Macaulay Library database which in turn is the basis for the photo recognition app Merlin. So I think in my case the size I show is a better requirement for the use intended. For anybody looking to ID any bird they photograph that they don’t know this is a lifesaver. It’s quite accurate and getting better as the number of pics in the library increases. Happily I know that in a small way I’m making that happen. (Sadly the Merlin program is only available on mobile devices.)
As for “noise” in most cases I don’t even consider it, unless I want to print out a large pic, either for myself or for sale.
I value everybody’s opinions as I find they are a lot of the time of value to me, whether I agree or not. Even at my age leaning heavily on my 8th decade one has much to learn.
I thank you kindly for looking in and the interesting comments.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Apr 6, 2022 18:02:13   #
LittleRed
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
For the use you put them to, they are more than adequate.


Thank you Curmudgeon looking and commenting. Yes, they do serve very well in what I use them for.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Apr 6, 2022 18:06:00   #
LittleRed
 
Chicago312 wrote:
Very nice photos. I would be quite pleased if I had been able to capture these shots. A few great photos are better than a hundred blurry shots.


Thanks Stephen for the kind words. I was quite pleased to get even a few fair-2-midlin pics considering the light I had available.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Apr 9, 2022 10:09:11   #
hettmoe Loc: Rural ND
 
Very nice!

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