Seabastes wrote:
I think you may be overconcerned about this particular image.
Only advice have is keep submitting and shoot what you love and keep the lowsest ISO you can to keep noise from effecting your image. I would suggest that over sharpening images is to be avoided.
Curious as to what agencies you are with. I am with Getty and Alamy.
Please send me a private message and I will give you my image sites on these agencies. I would be happy to look at your images as well. I am retired but have been a professional stock shooter since 1970.
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Hello Seabastes.
I didn't see this response for sometime, until now in fact. I will send you a message
My 2 cents.
There's nothing interesting in this photo.
No clear subject
Way too much negative space
Over processed.
For me it is almost all due to no composition of the photo.
To be honest with you, I don't see anything in your photograph that made it worth taking.
Grahame wrote:
It looks overprocessed to me.
There's some strange things going on at what looks like a light at bottom 1/4 from the left, and also trees bottom right.
I see it also. Looks like a masking issue on both objects. Lamp post should go away for sure. The tree ghosting is a different problem. It would be nice to see the original.
DanielB wrote:
I see it also. Looks like a masking issue on both objects. Lamp post should go away for sure. The tree ghosting is a different problem. It would be nice to see the original.
It's been a long time relatively, since I took this photo and I don't know where I have placed it.
Some have talked of Topaz sharpening and noise reduction, and I have tried it on a sampling basis. The latest version of LR has a new noise reduction program in it that I find quite useful. Maybe I will put out a picture here of the results of using that. I do find, however, that any sharpening at all creates a white fringe around pictures taken in the evening sunset, even if I use masking. But sharpening often doesn't seem necessary anymore with the types of pictures I have been taking, especially sunset pictures. I have been planning on doing photostacking and never got around to it. When I do I think that will really help. But the picture I put out here wasn't meant to show off some beautiful evening, just something to get some photo analysis feedback on.
The following is a photo I took recently of a sunset in which I used the new LR noise reduction and I think it came out pretty good. It may or may not be of any interest to anyone though. Hopefully some will like it.
1) As someone mentioned, proof/tune your photo on what the “agency” is using for choosing what they buy. TV monitors are made for motion, not still photos. They generate a lot of funky colors that are not there in your photo. I assume agencies review on a computer monitor. 2) I am looking at your photo on an iPhone. Here I se a lot artifacts from over-sharpening: a) the dark band around the lamp post b) the white linear halos along the margins of the buildings and the windows, c) the lighter sky seen thru the trees. All are from over sharpening and remember that the new “noise reduction” apps, whether in LR, Topaz AI, or On1 NoNoise all sharpen the edges ( without telling you) when they “reduce” noise. And at the end, they change to exposure and colors automatically to make it look better. But they do this to areas they have selected automatically. And they repeatedly choose to not select the space between the branches between trees. That is why trees often come out funky.
But the big question has been asked by others: did bou need to sharpen at all ( beyond what Noise Reduction programs do)?
The answer, in this photo is: No. Clouds normally fade off at the edges. No need to sharpen a sky! (Admittedly, you might want to change the contrast, highlights or shadows in the sky, cut even that can occasionally cause halos or fringing…. So look at all parts of your photo at 100% magnification for these every time you make any change!)
You asked for opinions, hope this is to too much.
photosfromtexas wrote:
1) As someone mentioned, proof/tune your photo on what the “agency” is using for choosing what they buy. TV monitors are made for motion, not still photos. They generate a lot of funky colors that are not there in your photo. I assume agencies review on a computer monitor. 2) I am looking at your photo on an iPhone. Here I se a lot artifacts from over-sharpening: a) the dark band around the lamp post b) the white linear halos along the margins of the buildings and the windows, c) the lighter sky seen thru the trees. All are from over sharpening and remember that the new “noise reduction” apps, whether in LR, Topaz AI, or On1 NoNoise all sharpen the edges ( without telling you) when they “reduce” noise. And at the end, they change to exposure and colors automatically to make it look better. But they do this to areas they have selected automatically. And they repeatedly choose to not select the space between the branches between trees. That is why trees often come out funky.
But the big question has been asked by others: did bou need to sharpen at all ( beyond what Noise Reduction programs do)?
The answer, in this photo is: No. Clouds normally fade off at the edges. No need to sharpen a sky! (Admittedly, you might want to change the contrast, highlights or shadows in the sky, cut even that can occasionally cause halos or fringing…. So look at all parts of your photo at 100% magnification for these every time you make any change!)
You asked for opinions, hope this is to too much.
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thanks, photosfromtexas
Yes, I have gotten away from sharpening a lot in my pictures, and I don't remember exactly what I did with this. I have found that sharpening almost always leaves a white fringe. I will still do it if the picture needs it. But more than often, they don't. I have found that even masking or other tricks do not solve the problem. And yes, clouds do not need to be sharpened. Occasionally, I might use a high pass filter for sharpening. Lightroom has recently introduced an ai noise reduction program that I find very useful. Not the same as sharpening at all. But it seems to me to do a very good job of noise reduction. That is usually a much bigger problem for me than sharpening. If the fringing is not too bad then it can be cleaned up to a certain extent with a clone healing tool, but best not to work with it at all, unless really necessary.
Thanks for the input
Although I like the dramatic sky and rays of light a lot my eye is drawn to large overexposed sun . Sky looks over processed ( over - dehaze ?) It will be helpful to see your SOOC and settings .
gener202002 wrote:
Hello everyone
I am not a professional photographer, and have a lot to learn. That being said, I have sold a number of pictures over the last years by being lucky. But I have been having more problems than usual lately, and while I have a pretty good average of my pictures accepted by photo agencies, more lately have been not accepted than in the past. I have taken a much more critical look at my pictures lately, and am not happy with them. I feel it is time I learned to step up to a new level. Lately, the pictures have seemed noisier than usual, need more sharpening, which seems to increase noise, and when viewed on a 70 inch tv at 100% I see some color fringing, usually white or grey, around the limbs of trees and such. I am using a mirrorless camera with a professional 24-105 lens. I never used to notice this, but I do now. Getting rid of that fringe could take me a lot of time if I could do it at all. Especially around numerous tree branches. I am submitting a picture that I hope that those who have the time can give me severe criticism of the following picture, and/or suggestions for improvement. I realize that that does take time for people to do, and I do appreciate it.
Anyway, I wonder what criticisms can be thrown at this particular picture. It looks much brighter on my tv than on my pc, so I have darkened it some. I have, to a small amount decolored it as well, but not too much. I also cropped in on the bottom just a little due to a wall I thought was just a little distracting.
Any help would be appreciated.
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More fundamentally, I don't understand exactly what this image is showing me. Is this a rising ramp to the sun? Please explain. Until I know that, it's hard to judge anything else. But then, why bother. It's a non-starter for me.
I'm curious to know what you like about the picture.
usnret wrote:
I'm curious to know what you like about the picture.
I liked the sky. This is a colored sky though, not the original. Since I can't get out to take great landscape photos, I do this, but not anymore. I have a lot of pictures out available on stock agencies, and several of them sell. But I am not able to get out anymore to take good pictures. I just wanted to know if the sky was overdone, wrong color, or whatever. As some have said, it is a non starter, so I am not doing anymore of this, except may ocassionally put one of my best pictures out here.
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