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Feb 27, 2022 18:04:24   #
DPFotoZ Loc: Woodruff, SC USA
 
Here's one I shot in 2019. Nikon D7100, 70-200 f2.8 Nikon lens shot on manual with BBF, 1/250th, F 2.8, ISO 3200. Just for comparison!



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Feb 28, 2022 07:35:53   #
EJMcD
 
Gotta love continuous shutter mode!

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Feb 28, 2022 08:54:40   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
As I remember it the D500 had very fast AF tracking capabilities but the D7500 less so. Perhaps when you were getting on target with the moving subject the AF wasn't fast enough to keep up and used a focus lock on the background instead of the subject. Since the D7500 was more of a general purpose camera (nearly 5 yrs old and entry level), there are better choices for shooting fast-moving sport. In any case I'd recommend centre weighted AF (spot AF might be a bit tricky for fast-moving subjects).

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Feb 28, 2022 11:05:27   #
EJMcD
 
R.G. wrote:
As I remember it the D500 had very fast AF tracking capabilities but the D7500 less so. Perhaps when you were getting on target with the moving subject the AF wasn't fast enough to keep up and used a focus lock on the background instead of the subject. Since the D7500 was more of a general purpose camera (nearly 5 yrs old and entry level), there are better choices for shooting fast-moving sport. In any case I'd recommend centre weighted AF (spot AF might be a bit tricky for fast-moving subjects).
As I remember it the D500 had very fast AF trackin... (show quote)


I thought the focus on the main subject (girl serving) was fine. Her hand about to strike the ball is a little blurred but I also think that adds a sense of motion to a still photograph!

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Feb 28, 2022 11:12:52   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
EJMcD wrote:
I thought the focus on the main subject (girl serving) was fine. Her hand about to strike the ball is a little blurred but I also think that adds a sense of motion to a still photograph!


Apparently the OP isn't happy with the sharpness of the player (the whole player) and is rightly blaming it on missed focus rather than subject movement. It looks like the focus point was right on the player but that could be a misleading impression if the autofocus was lagging behind the camera movement.

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Feb 28, 2022 11:17:19   #
EJMcD
 
Maybe we're not looking at the same photo. I was referring to the photo beginning on page 2. Sorry if I've mislead anyone.

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Feb 28, 2022 11:20:53   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
EJMcD wrote:
Maybe we're not looking at the same photo. I was referring to the photo beginning on page 2. Sorry if I've mislead anyone.


Yep, that's a good shot (but it's not the OP's).

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Feb 28, 2022 11:26:58   #
EJMcD
 
R.G. wrote:
Yep, that's a good shot (but it's not the OP's).


Yes, I understand that. Thanks for pointing out what I already apologized for.

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Feb 28, 2022 23:36:31   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
I concur with those who suggest additional testing of you af tuning. Seems very suspect and it is not hard to determine if it is off or not. Use slow repeatable subjects at an angle to you. If you are most interested in gym sports, set up your test at comparable distances, say 50-75 feet.

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Mar 18, 2022 01:01:15   #
btbg
 
PhotoGuy618 wrote:
Hey room.
Beginner sports photographer here and I'm looking for advice on some indoor volleyball photos I'm taking.
Here's the basics...
I shoot with a Nikon 7500 and a Tamron 70-200mm G2
A majority of the time I stay on Shutter Priority (800-1000) with an Auto ISO (typically around 5-6000 but will go as high at 32000, depending on the gym lighting - very rare).
My aperture usually stays on a 2.8.
I noticed an inconsistencey with my shots, it was recomended to have the lens calibrated with my body.
My local camera shop found mild back focusing and corrected it...I think.
My AF Fine Tune is now set at -16. Seems extreme...but OK.
So the attached photos are an example.
I had someone use Lightroom and they say my focal point is off....but damn if I didnt think I nailed it.
The focal point sensor shows right on the player..but the chairs behind her are more in focus.
So now I'm super confused.
I dont know Lightroom that much but thought maybe someone here could help me out.
What could be my issue(s)?
Thanks.
Hey room. br Beginner sports photographer here an... (show quote)


800 - 1,000 is not a fast enough shutter speed for a lot of volleyball situations. Keep shooting at f5.6. stopping down just raises either the ISO or lowers the shutter speed, neither is a good choice. Main problem is that you are using too many focus points, and are not accurately focused on the subject. In addition your timing is poor, as there isn't really any action in the photo.

I suggest you practice, practice, practice. But, also that you learn more about both how volleyball is played and the tendencies of the team or teams that you are photographing so that you can anticipate the action.

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Mar 18, 2022 10:13:38   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
If you want to shoot sports action, you need to train yourself to shoot wide open. I shoot Volleyball with a 135mm 1.8 wide-open at around 1250, perhaps a bit slower in the gym I'm in. YMMV! Practice, practice, practice and more practice! Best of luck.

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Mar 18, 2022 20:42:40   #
JoeJoe
 
PhotoGuy618 wrote:
Hey room.
Beginner sports photographer here and I'm looking for advice on some indoor volleyball photos I'm taking.
Here's the basics...
I shoot with a Nikon 7500 and a Tamron 70-200mm G2
A majority of the time I stay on Shutter Priority (800-1000) with an Auto ISO (typically around 5-6000 but will go as high at 32000, depending on the gym lighting - very rare).
My aperture usually stays on a 2.8.
I noticed an inconsistencey with my shots, it was recomended to have the lens calibrated with my body.
My local camera shop found mild back focusing and corrected it...I think.
My AF Fine Tune is now set at -16. Seems extreme...but OK.
So the attached photos are an example.
I had someone use Lightroom and they say my focal point is off....but damn if I didnt think I nailed it.
The focal point sensor shows right on the player..but the chairs behind her are more in focus.
So now I'm super confused.
I dont know Lightroom that much but thought maybe someone here could help me out.
What could be my issue(s)?
Thanks.
Hey room. br Beginner sports photographer here an... (show quote)


I've shot roller Derby in some bad gyms.....

The best advice I could give is No1 Calibrate your lens to the camera .... No2 learn BBF (back button focus on a single point / continuous focus) .... Auto ISO and F2.8 to F8 .. Keep your shutter speed above 1/500th

And practise..... (have included an image I took from a gym they nicknamed the coal mine)

Regards
Joe



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Mar 19, 2022 23:04:07   #
btbg
 
cjc2 wrote:
If you want to shoot sports action, you need to train yourself to shoot wide open. I shoot Volleyball with a 135mm 1.8 wide-open at around 1250, perhaps a bit slower in the gym I'm in. YMMV! Practice, practice, practice and more practice! Best of luck.


I agree. My post saying 5.6 is a typo. Should have said 2.8. I also have a 105 f1.8, which I use when I can.

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Mar 20, 2022 06:28:08   #
JoeJoe
 
Forgot to add practise panning at a local race track or similar it will help enormously ..... You'll understand why once you nail the technique..

Regards
Joe

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Mar 20, 2022 10:31:55   #
shackcf
 
I agree with single point focus. I shoot dancers in action. My friend was having issues with focus being off on a D5500 and after testing how it was set AF-C with multipoint and then changed to Single point it resolved up to 95% of the issues. The rest is of course SS. Since we shoot Zoom lens the f is usually above 5. We normally shoot manual a d RAW.

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