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Feb 12, 2022 13:03:54   #
Ruthlessrider
 
I have this landscape photo taken in Iceland. As I tried to enhance the blues in the sky for a little more drama, I ided the sky, but when finished I noticed a white line outlining the mountains on the left. How can I accomplish my mission w/o creating the white outline.



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Feb 12, 2022 13:08:34   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
What software are you using plz?

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Feb 12, 2022 13:10:06   #
williejoha
 
I use LR Classic and use the defrac option.
WJH

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Feb 12, 2022 13:14:07   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
To alter only the sky you had to select the sky. You need a better feathered selection.

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Feb 12, 2022 13:16:18   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Try this: https://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/how-to-avoid-fringing-when-editing-landscape-photos/

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Feb 12, 2022 13:22:37   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
I have this landscape photo taken in Iceland. As I tried to enhance the blues in the sky for a little more drama, I ided the sky, but when finished I noticed a white line outlining the mountains on the left. How can I accomplish my mission w/o creating the white outline.


Those are JPEG artifacts caused by over-compressing and over-sharpening an image.

Record full size raw files. Post-process in a NON-Destructive editor such as Adobe Lightroom Classic. Do not reduce the file size until exporting to a file. Sharpen last.

If you intend to make edits to camera-processed JPEGs, choose the camera menu settings for maximum dimension in pixels and highest quality or least compression. Convert to TIFF for editing. Make all your changes to the TIFF. Export to JPEG.

Using a 16-bit TIFF in ProPhoto RGB color space will allow near-lossless adjustments. It won’t bring back what the camera threw away to make the original JPEG, but it will do the least additional damage. Your final conversion back to an 8-bit JPEG in sRGB color space will look as good as an edited JPEG can look.

Export at 10-12 quality on a 12 point scale, or 85-100 on a 100 point scale. Resize and sharpen for your target use when exporting to disk. Save your raw or TIFF file separately.

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Feb 12, 2022 13:49:47   #
Ruthlessrider
 
LR Classic

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Feb 12, 2022 13:52:18   #
Ruthlessrider
 
This was a RAW file taken by a Canon 5DIV. The photos were post processed in LR Classic and saved as a .jpeg w/o compression.

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Feb 12, 2022 14:39:58   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
This was a RAW file taken by a Canon 5DIV. The photos were post processed in LR Classic and saved as a .jpeg w/o compression.


Did you send the raw file straight to Lr or did you convert it using DPP? If you used DPP it will have applied any in-camera adjustments that you have set for creating jpegs in-camera. If that included sharpening, that's where the white line is originating.

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Feb 12, 2022 16:41:10   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
I have this landscape photo taken in Iceland. As I tried to enhance the blues in the sky for a little more drama, I ided the sky, but when finished I noticed a white line outlining the mountains on the left. How can I accomplish my mission w/o creating the white outline.


An incredibly beautiful scenic πŸ’šπŸ’™πŸ’šπŸ’™πŸ’š

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Feb 12, 2022 16:44:58   #
Ruthlessrider
 
Thanks joe!

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Feb 12, 2022 16:47:32   #
Ruthlessrider
 
RG-The RAW file was straight from LR to PS then converted to jpg from PS to my desktop.

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Feb 12, 2022 16:53:01   #
Ruthlessrider
 
It seems to me that the white is LRs imprecise identification of what is the sky and what is the mountain, but I can’t figure out either how to correct it or prevent it from happening again.

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Feb 12, 2022 16:55:12   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
RG-The RAW file was straight from LR to PS then converted to jpg from PS to my desktop.


Can you post the file from Photoshop with all metadata intact, and check the (store original) box? The file's metadata may help us get a better idea of what is going on here. You should not be getting this effect.

What sort of editing was done to the raw file in Lightroom? Photoshop? We're missing something.

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Feb 12, 2022 17:07:59   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
Ruthlessrider wrote:
It seems to me that the white is LRs imprecise identification of what is the sky and what is the mountain, but I can’t figure out either how to correct it or prevent it from happening again.

Yep, it's LR's selection of the sky. You masked the sky in order to adjust only the sky. The mask edge is too abrupt and is causing the halo. You need to feather/refine the mask edge.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/how-to-feather-subject-mask-edges.44067/#post-1291710

The above link is from last year. I don't know if the new masking functions in LR are improved such that you can feather a mask edge more easily (took LR off my computers nearly two years ago).

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