Camera Change (Page 2): Probably the best idea in the long run. Thanks.

jfh2841 Loc: United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

Keep in mind, the FTZ adapter (literally: F To Z) adds a bit of size & a bit of weight to the overall configuration. But otherwise, all the 'modern' F-mount lenses run as-is on the Z cameras, modern as in AF-enabled with an in-lens focus motor. The rental gives an idea of the size and weight, even the option to hold one in each hand to compare.

Probably the best idea in the long run. Thanks.

jfh2841 Loc: United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

Keep in mind, the FTZ adapter (literally: F To Z) adds a bit of size & a bit of weight to the overall configuration. But otherwise, all the 'modern' F-mount lenses run as-is on the Z cameras, modern as in AF-enabled with an in-lens focus motor. The rental gives an idea of the size and weight, even the option to hold one in each hand to compare.

A hand to hand comparison will be one of the tests.

Bill_de Loc: US

jfh2841 wrote:

Hmmm. So by asking a question, it opens a can of worms. Strange response. I guess we should just close this out.

Or, if not interested you should just stay away! Of course, then you miss all the fun.

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rmorrison1116 wrote:

If you can afford to purchase MILC gear to replace or supplement your current gear, then do so.
I too have a D500 and D850 and I personally see no reason, at this time, to rush out and purchase an MILC to replace them because, ultimately, the end result is pretty much the same, high quality digital images.
If you are someone who must have the newest technology, and can afford it, go for it. It's a good thing for the camera industry and the folks who buy and use them.

Quality of results has nothing to do with the matter.

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jfh2841 wrote:

I am currently shooting with a Nikon D850 and D500. Of course I am heavily invested in lenses. I am wondering if I should make the change to mirrorless and go with the Z7ll. I have read all the comparisons but I would like to hear from those out there that have experienced this change and what they think...

Having experienced such a change I’d suggest that if you rent anything, rent an m4/3 outfit. If you don’t like it, stick with your current outfit. Only m4/3 offers a really significant reduction in weight. No assurance that you’ll take to m4/3, but only a hands-on will tell.

As user of nearly the whole m4/3 size spectrum (no M1X), the Olympus EM5 mkIII strikes me as the “Goldilocks” choice in size, cost, and performance.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

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Quality of results has nothing to do with the matter.

I didn't say, quality of results.

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rmorrison1116 wrote:

I didn't say, quality of results.

You said “the end result is pretty much the same”.

ELNikkor

So, the real reason for a possible change is the size/weight issue, not final image. In that case, yes, rent the Z7II. Be ready to go "whole hog". As seasons change in life, we too must do. Best if going mirrorless is to sell totally out of your DSLRs and get Z lenses as well, relegating the DSLR/heavier cameras to the past. The new 28-75 Z lens on the Z7II would be a great start!

Bayou

jfh2841 wrote:

... My biggest issue with camera's and lenses in general is weight as I have a spinal cord injury and the weight is harder to handle with each passing year....

Mirrorless cameras of the same sensor size are only marginally lighter than DSLR. Yes, the bodies are considerably smaller and a bit lighter, but the lenses are essentially the same bulk and weight. (not to mention the cost of all new lenses) To truly save weight you'd have to go forgo full frame altogether, and maybe even DX depending on your personal limitations. M4/3 is out there and very light and compact, though not much to choose from.

If you already own DX lenses you know how much lighter they are than the FX. A D3500 or D7500 with true DX lenses would cut your average weight a great deal over the D850 and FX lenses, probably more than half. While it's no fun going backwards with regard to features, if weight gets to be a real problem, that may be the way to go.

traderjohn Loc: New York City

FreddB wrote:

No offense meant - wanted to ask this before of many others - why so many cameras? I have enough of a challenge remembering how to use one.

Fragile ego??? Or maybe just talk.

jfh2841 Loc: United States

Bayou wrote:

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Thanks, I have considered that and have tried stepping back previously. For now, I will stick with my current gear and rely more on my Cotton Carrier and tactics to reduce the time I have to carry and hike to get the picture I want. I guess I have to accept that I am getting older and my disabilities will never improve. My favorite subject has always been the Landscape... It is sad but a fact of life. I am thankful that I have had several years in which I could walk and carry my D850 with a single lens while pulling my collapsible wagon... I still have many National Parks with accessible places to shoot..... Just an attitude adjustment and maybe a new Nikon to dream about for fun....

yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey

Probably depends on the use case. If you're mostly doing landscapes or portraits, you'll love the Z7ii.

If you're doing sports or wildlife, maybe not so much. That may change if and when Nikon gets around to updating the firmware in the Z7II to take full advantage of the dual processors and improve subject tracking.

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

I have had 2 D850’s since the first releases. Both have the battery packs so are configured identical.
For the most part, I keep a 24-120mm on one and the 200-500mm on the other.
When the Z7II came out I thought about getting one but caught wind that a Z9 was in development.
I got my Z9 in one of the first shipments. I sold off one of my D850’s. Still getting used to the changes. Some are pro some are con. Don’t have time to elaborate right now.
Do I regret buying the Z9? No! But what I would suggest before you make the investment, if you can, rent the mirrorless camera you are considering buying.
Only you can make the choice for your needs and likings. Not anyone here.
As far as the lenses, I got the 14-30 z lens. The configuration is 1 1/2 pounds lighter than my D850 and 14-24. I got the FTZ adapter and tested my 70-200, 80-400 and 200-500 on the Z9 and found no issues, yet.

tcthome Loc: NJ

jfh2841 wrote:

LOL! Just wanted to know what real users thought. Very satisfied with what I have but I always like to look at the new. Lol! I had no idea that evaluating tech was a sore subject. It would have to be a huge leap to abandon my D850. My biggest issue with camera's and lenses in general is weight as I have a spinal cord injury and the weight is harder to handle with each passing year....

I would try & get to a camera store with your equipment & hold the camera & Z lenses & do a side by side comparison if weight is the issue. Also if you go online to Nikons website you can see what the weight of what you own & might purchase is. If you plan on using your f-mount lens with the Z7II, the weight savings will be negligible.

coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA

tcthome wrote:

I would try & get to a camera store with your equipment & hold the camera & Z lenses & do a side by side comparison if weight is the issue. Also if you go online to Nikons website you can see what the weight of what you own & might purchase is. If you plan on using your f-mount lens with the Z7II, the weight savings will be negligible.

Very much agree with tcthome.
And as I suggested, try to rent one for a day to really test drive it.