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Oct 15, 2021 21:43:10   #
frangeo Loc: Texas
 
azted wrote:
I was waiting for my wife at the dentist, and right before she came out, I glance to my left, across the courtyard (on the same 3rd floor as me), the attached photo shoot was occurring. So I pulled out my cellphone to catch this. The photographer had three front and one back light setups, for the four people standing in a shaded area. After checking, he tore the diffusers off the lights. Does anyone think that this was overkill for this four person grouping? I am assuming it was for a magazine promo or something of that nature as they did not have uniforms on, and at one point one of the males left and they took more photos. But what a detailed setup, and why?
I was waiting for my wife at the dentist, and righ... (show quote)


No!!!!!!!! When you are paid as as a professional photographer you'll understand. This level of photography is NOT point and shoot. You are light years away from understanding. What you should have done is watch the photographer and learn something you didn't know before. What the photographer was doing was REAL photography. Not waiting for a bird to land on your porch.

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Oct 16, 2021 13:39:30   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
frangeo wrote:
No!!!!!!!! When you are paid as as a professional photographer you'll understand. This level of photography is NOT point and shoot. You are light years away from understanding. What you should have done is watch the photographer and learn something you didn't know before. What the photographer was doing was REAL photography. Not waiting for a bird to land on your porch.


Whoa................You certainly had your condescending Wheaties this morning! Have a long life.

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Oct 16, 2021 17:35:03   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I can't tell what models of lights he's using, but I suspect they are fairly low powered. Notice that he has two of them ganged up to act as his main light. I do that too with my "location" lights, because they are only about 320 watt seconds each. One reason for the lower power is that I have the option to use batteries with them, when there is no power available. Maybe that's the case with his lights, too.

His arrangement actually looks a lot like what I've used over the years: a main light (two lights ganged), a fill light to the other side, then a light in the rear. He appears to be using the rear light for rim lighting the subjects... I'll sometimes do that, other times use it to illuminate a background. I also have fifth light that I sometimes put on a boom above the subject for a hair light.

Probably the earlier response is right... that he's using the lighting to have more complete control. By reducing his exposure so that the lights become the dominant light source it gives him a lot more control than if he tried to mix it with ambient light or just use ambient light alone. Saves a lot of time later in post-processing.

This is actually a fairly simply lighting setup. A friend of mine did a lot of high-end architectural photography in the past. Most of his jobs paid 5 figures and some paid 6. He traveled a lot and would show up with a van full of lighting gear and sometimes spend 6 or more hours just setting up the lighting in a large, complicated interior. He even had boxes of bulbs to replace all the existing ones in fixtures at the location, in order to have correct color match. That was back when he was shooting film (large format). Today with digital he's been able to simplify it quite a bit more, but still spends more time setting up shots than actually taking them.

Executive head shots for use in annual reports, on websites and elsewhere can be good paying gigs. That might be what's happening here.
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I believe the single light is the main light, and the two lights are the fill. I have used that type of lighting, with the main light at 45 degrees and the fill on the camera/subject axis. I think that using the main light on the camera/subject axis the lighting would be too flat.

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Oct 16, 2021 17:57:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I believe the single light is the main light, and the two lights are the fill. I have used that type of lighting, with the main light at 45 degrees and the fill on the camera/subject axis. I think that using the main light on the camera/subject axis the lighting would be too flat.


Yes, fill lights are best placed on camera axis.

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