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Oct 11, 2021 08:03:39   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
Comments please. I shot this yesterday at 5:30 in the afternoon, hand held, should have used tripod, I took many photos that did not have great enough dof even with f/13. This was shot in manual mode with a d850, using a f2.8 to 70 zoom at 34 mm and 1/200s. I have a damaged left shoulder that is getting better so I do not hold a camera steady. I think that at 71 years young I should not use a sledge hammer without a little resting between days.
The shot is not cropped and has a little post processing
This might have been a wall hanger if I had seen the blade of grass in the foreground and the bird house post in the back ground. When reviewing the session on the monitors I notice that on other shots I was not seeing distracting items in the shot. Anyone else have that issue or do you all pay attention?


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Oct 11, 2021 08:40:41   #
LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb
 
I don't see anything wrong with the foreground. It is nature as it is. Crop to remove the post and you're golden.

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Oct 11, 2021 08:43:44   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
When you activate the shutter you make a photograph. Why are you activating your shutter when you do not know what is in your image? Of course I pay attention to what I shoot. Can't answer for everyone else. Why bother to even look in your view finder? Bird house? What did you do with it?

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Oct 11, 2021 09:54:03   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
davidrb
I found while reviewing the photos that I focus my attention on the subject and not the whole view.
I am impressed that you always see the whole shot. It is good to know that some people can do that.
Would you please post some shots of getting it right

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Oct 11, 2021 09:58:32   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
David
I wrote "the bird house post in the background". It is the green out of focus vertical item at about 10 o'clock with respect to the subject.
By the way does anyone know is the subject eatable?

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Oct 11, 2021 10:23:25   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
We all make mistakes. It's not the mistake that counts. It's if you learn from it. So be more careful in the future and don;t make the same mistake again. As MT Shooter said "When in doubt, shoot it again"

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Oct 12, 2021 08:14:33   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
LDB415 wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with the foreground. It is nature as it is. Crop to remove the post and you're golden.


I concur.

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Oct 12, 2021 08:57:57   #
Rick from NY Loc: Sarasota FL
 
Not enough depth of field? I would suggest that you have too much dof. The shroom is the subject. Everything else is a distraction for me. I would have chosen to take this shot at f2.8 or f4 at 70mm to totally blur both the foreground and the background. There is nothing I see as interesting in either. Along the same lines, I would severely crop the shot to maximize the subject and minimize what I see as distractions.

BTW - if you do prefer including the foreground and background, it is quite simple to remove the offending pole in the background and the stray blade of grass in the foreground. If you decide to take that route, I’d suggest cloning out the brown grass blades as well.

Cool looking mushroom, by the way.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:29:51   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
You could crop it down and still get a wall hanger, IMHO.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:45:29   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I see what you mean about the blade of grass - in particular the very out of focus one in the foreground on the left.
You can easily remove this and the post with cloning and healing brushes in PhotoShop (other other programs like Gimp). There are many videos on YouTube explaining how to do it.
If you want to get fancier, there is also gradient blur thru layer masks to progressively blur out the background.

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Oct 12, 2021 10:27:33   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
Rick from NY
thanks for your comments. I find with the D850 and the 24 to 70 mm f2.8 that the DOF can be very short per Photopills and experience. At 70 mm, f4 and a the minimum focus distance the dof is about 1/4" " but the field of view at the focus distance drops to 8" x 5" and the angle of view is half that at 35 mm. Thus 70 mm might have been better. I also have the 70 to 200 which might even been a better choice since the angle of view would be smaller making the background much less of a distraction and maybe even more blurry.
The take away is that I need to plan a little better and take more shots of small objects at ground level so I can learn. I need scissors in my camera bag to trim grass.

I lucked out on the lighting. It was sunny, late in the day, almost the golden hour, the sun was shinning on the subject and little wind. The next day the subject had opened up and not near as interesting.

Note I made some tests with cropping and the photo is more pleasing. I need to learn to clone again.

I spent too much of the summer doing landscaping and planning a trip to Greece, Croatia and Montenegro that got canceled due to the Wuhan virus, forest fires and canceled flights . We are glad we never went since is seems to have rained about everyday we planned to be there. Also the shoulder pain is not fun.

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Oct 13, 2021 02:01:00   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
home brewer wrote:
David
I wrote "the bird house post in the background". It is the green out of focus vertical item at about 10 o'clock with respect to the subject.
By the way does anyone know is the subject eatable?


That mushroom is called shaggy mane and it is eminently edible. It is one of the "Fool proof four."
I generally would not say anything about the edibility of a mushroom from a photo because in most cases there are other mushrooms that superficially look like edible mushrooms that are not edible or may be dangerously poisonous.
However shaggy manes are so distinctive it would be very difficult to confuse them with any other species. Shaggy manes are best gathered early in the morning and eaten the same day. If left for any length of time they will mash down into a black unappealing mess. They tend to do that in the frying pan but sre still delicious.
If you are interested in foraging for mushrooms, get two or three good books on the subject and learn to identify them based on their characteristics.
There is no easy way to judge the edibility of a mushroom. The morphology, habitat, colour and the spore size, shape and colour must all be combined to get a correct identification.
Also lean the more common poisonous mushrooms such as those belonging to the amanita genus. They are among the most dangerous as they are very toxic, look very nice and resemble grocery store mushrooms.

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Oct 13, 2021 06:41:01   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
Brian
thanks
there area large amount of fungi in our yard over the last week. I have no idea about all of them.

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Oct 14, 2021 14:09:35   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
home brewer wrote:
Comments please. I shot this yesterday at 5:30 in the afternoon, hand held, should have used tripod, I took many photos that did not have great enough dof even with f/13. This was shot in manual mode with a d850, using a f2.8 to 70 zoom at 34 mm and 1/200s. I have a damaged left shoulder that is getting better so I do not hold a camera steady. I think that at 71 years young I should not use a sledge hammer without a little resting between days.
The shot is not cropped and has a little post processing
This might have been a wall hanger if I had seen the blade of grass in the foreground and the bird house post in the back ground. When reviewing the session on the monitors I notice that on other shots I was not seeing distracting items in the shot. Anyone else have that issue or do you all pay attention?
Comments please. I shot this yesterday at 5:30 in ... (show quote)


The foreground is okay. I think the background detracts from the subject. f 5.6 might have given a better, somewhat blurred background that may have helped the subject stand out-subject isolation. Thanx for sharing.

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