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Sep 25, 2021 21:29:25   #
trapper1 Loc: Southside Virginia
 
Looking for a site that provides entry-level information on infrared photography, general information, IR lens, techniques, etc., not interested in converting a camera at this stage. U-tube et al not an option due to my inability to hear the audio. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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Sep 25, 2021 23:37:28   #
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trapper1 wrote:
Looking for a site that provides entry-level information on infrared photography, general information, IR lens, techniques, etc., not interested in converting a camera at this stage. U-tube et al not an option due to my inability to hear the audio. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

IIRC the conversion shops also have such info and advice on their sites.

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Sep 25, 2021 23:42:07   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
trapper give this a look/see
https://expertphotography.com/infrared-photography-basic-camera-gear/

I use to shoot IR... Not so much any more...
Look here on UHH, lots of post on IR
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/search-topic-list?q=Infrared&sectnum=0&username=

Hope this helps trapper
Please stay safe

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Sep 26, 2021 02:53:37   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
trapper1 wrote:
Looking for a site that provides entry-level information on infrared photography, general information, IR lens, techniques, etc., not interested in converting a camera at this stage. U-tube et al not an option due to my inability to hear the audio. Any suggestions will be appreciated.


Try some of the IR conversion firms such Kolari Vision and LifePixel for a start.

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Sep 26, 2021 07:53:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LifePixel does camera conversion, and it also provides a lot of information.

Also -
https://photographylife.com/how-to-process-infrared-photographs
http://photography.tutsplus.com/tutorials/an-in-depth-guide-to-infrared-photography-processing--photo-9540
http://digital-photography-school.com/5-creative-ways-to-process-infrared-photographs-in-photoshop/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOmq6VwvPY8
http://infrared-photography.freeforums.net/
http://www.lifepixel.com/
http://www.kolarivision.com/
http://lightroom-blog.com/2015/05/26/creating-false-color-infrared-in-lightroom/

Lens hot spots -
https://kolarivision.com/articles/lens-hotspot-list/

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Sep 26, 2021 08:48:24   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Trapper said: " entry-level information on infrared photography, general information, IR lens, techniques, etc., not interested in converting a camera at this stage. "

The last part of the statement " not interested in converting a camera at this stage" Is an "I want to take photos but do not want to use a camera" statement. What... huh?! Trapper, to be able to take real IR photos you must have an IR or better yet full spectra camera. If entry-level... then a simple conversion taking about an hour is detailed in my post which refers to a hands-on video post by Graham Houghton. Panasonic ZS-3 Conversion was simple, six screws and two simple cable clamps removed the back. I used Dollar tree small screwdrivers, be sure to make a map of the camera showing the placement of the screws... they are different lengths. I am happy with my converted camera it is sufficient when the IR urge arises. NO, it is not a DSLR camera... it is a simple pocket camera if you want to have an "I am a professional IR photographer" camera you can do that later.
Houghton's video part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frtQxryDTo8

My post about the conversion and a lot of links for information... spend the day reading... look on eBay for a used camera that fits the family of cameras discussed. My cameras years ago cost about $100. A filter adapter was
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-547605-1.html

Filter to the camera was accomplished by using a ring with male threads removed with my Drummel hobby grinder and epoxy to the camera. Houghton uses adhesive tape...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDWr4iWwD48

You can see why full spectra with low-cost 37 mm or 52mm filters is the fun way to go.
http://kolarivision.com/articles/choosing-a-filter/

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Sep 26, 2021 09:02:11   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Go to YouTube and search for “Bob Shea Photography infrared.” One of the first recommendations that will pop up will be an introduction. Then, go from there. He has posted a “bunch” of excellent videos from converting to processing.

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Sep 26, 2021 10:25:01   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
These are two very good sites. While. They do conversions there is also plenty of information.
Kolarivision.com
Lifepixel.com

Also look at photographylife

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Sep 26, 2021 10:50:25   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
47greyfox wrote:
Go to YouTube and search for “Bob Shea Photography infrared.” One of the first recommendations that will pop up will be an introduction. Then, go from there. He has posted a “bunch” of excellent videos from converting to processing.


Great site! Bob Shea also gives instructions on how to create profiles for Adobe ACR/Lightroom which once they are set, the conversion of the IR images becomes a no brainer.

Image 1 shows a screen shot from Lightroom where I created a number of profiles. My naming convention I used was the T followed by a number was the Temperature offset. For instance "T -50" = Temp = -50K. Then I followed with channel swap information such as R-B Swap for swapping Red and blue channels.

After the profile is selected, I do a white balance to come up with something close to what I want and then perhaps tweak sliders a bit to finish.

Image 2 is a result done after the profile selection and then White Balance. A 720nm filter was used on a full spectrum modified camera. It is possible to use a non-modified camera, but the exposure times are way longer and the focus is trial and error. A modified mirrorless camera is the most sensible option since the focus is done at the mirror and provides for perfect focus every time.

Lightroom Screenshot showing Profile selection
Lightroom Screenshot showing Profile selection...
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Sep 26, 2021 11:00:13   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
JimH123 wrote:
Great site! Bob Shea also gives instructions on how to create profiles for Adobe ACR/Lightroom which once they are set, the conversion of the IR images becomes a no brainer.

Image 1 shows a screen shot from Lightroom where I created a number of profiles. My naming convention I used was the T followed by a number was the Temperature offset. For instance "T -50" = Temp = -50K. Then I followed with channel swap information such as R-B Swap for swapping Red and blue channels.

After the profile is selected, I do a white balance to come up with something close to what I want and then perhaps tweak sliders a bit to finish.

Image 2 is a result done after the profile selection and then White Balance. A 720nm filter was used on a full spectrum modified camera. It is possible to use a non-modified camera, but the exposure times are way longer and the focus is trial and error. A modified mirrorless camera is the most sensible option since the focus is done at the mirror and provides for perfect focus every time.
Great site! Bob Shea also gives instructions on h... (show quote)


Totally agree, Jim. I have a 590 filter in a small Canon S100 and other than occasional lens flare that's avoidable most of the time, it's been fun. With Bob Shea's PSE editing guidance video on one screen and Photoshop Elements on another (with a custom WB profile installed), the sometimes frustrating has become relatively simple. That's not to say that some images don't present a challenge usually solvable by selecting a WB point. The Adobe Profile Editor for LR and others that use Adobe Camera Raw can be found here: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/digital-negative.html
An example....


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Sep 26, 2021 14:23:38   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm glad you brought this to everyone's attention.
--Bob

dpullum wrote:
Trapper said: " entry-level information on infrared photography, general information, IR lens, techniques, etc., not interested in converting a camera at this stage. "

The last part of the statement " not interested in converting a camera at this stage" Is an "I want to take photos but do not want to use a camera" statement. What... huh?! Trapper, to be able to take real IR photos you must have an IR or better yet full spectra camera. If entry-level... then a simple conversion taking about an hour is detailed in my post which refers to a hands-on video post by Graham Houghton. Panasonic ZS-3 Conversion was simple, six screws and two simple cable clamps removed the back. I used Dollar tree small screwdrivers, be sure to make a map of the camera showing the placement of the screws... they are different lengths. I am happy with my converted camera it is sufficient when the IR urge arises. NO, it is not a DSLR camera... it is a simple pocket camera if you want to have an "I am a professional IR photographer" camera you can do that later.
Houghton's video part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frtQxryDTo8

My post about the conversion and a lot of links for information... spend the day reading... look on eBay for a used camera that fits the family of cameras discussed. My cameras years ago cost about $100. A filter adapter was
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-547605-1.html

Filter to the camera was accomplished by using a ring with male threads removed with my Drummel hobby grinder and epoxy to the camera. Houghton uses adhesive tape...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDWr4iWwD48

You can see why full spectra with low-cost 37 mm or 52mm filters is the fun way to go.
http://kolarivision.com/articles/choosing-a-filter/
Trapper said: " entry-level information on in... (show quote)

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Sep 26, 2021 16:49:24   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
47greyfox wrote:
Totally agree, Jim. I have a 590 filter in a small Canon S100 and other than occasional lens flare that's avoidable most of the time, it's been fun. With Bob Shea's PSE editing guidance video on one screen and Photoshop Elements on another (with a custom WB profile installed), the sometimes frustrating has become relatively simple. That's not to say that some images don't present a challenge usually solvable by selecting a WB point. The Adobe Profile Editor for LR and others that use Adobe Camera Raw can be found here: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/digital-negative.html
An example....
Totally agree, Jim. I have a 590 filter in a small... (show quote)


Mindbogglingly, eye-catchingly spectacular composition ⭐🏆💛🏆⭐

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Sep 26, 2021 16:51:37   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
Great site! Bob Shea also gives instructions on how to create profiles for Adobe ACR/Lightroom which once they are set, the conversion of the IR images becomes a no brainer.

Image 1 shows a screen shot from Lightroom where I created a number of profiles. My naming convention I used was the T followed by a number was the Temperature offset. For instance "T -50" = Temp = -50K. Then I followed with channel swap information such as R-B Swap for swapping Red and blue channels.

After the profile is selected, I do a white balance to come up with something close to what I want and then perhaps tweak sliders a bit to finish.

Image 2 is a result done after the profile selection and then White Balance. A 720nm filter was used on a full spectrum modified camera. It is possible to use a non-modified camera, but the exposure times are way longer and the focus is trial and error. A modified mirrorless camera is the most sensible option since the focus is done at the mirror and provides for perfect focus every time.
Great site! Bob Shea also gives instructions on h... (show quote)



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Sep 26, 2021 18:11:41   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
I use a plugin to do the R-B swap... much easier than doing channel swap. Free from the archives
http://www.flamingpear.com/older.html

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Sep 26, 2021 18:31:07   #
trapper1 Loc: Southside Virginia
 
dpullum wrote:
Trapper said: " entry-level information on infrared photography, general information, IR lens, techniques, etc., not interested in converting a camera at this stage. "

The last part of the statement " not interested in converting a camera at this stage" Is an "I want to take photos but do not want to use a camera" statement. What... huh?! Trapper, to be able to take real IR photos you must have an IR or better yet full spectra camera. If entry-level... then a simple conversion taking about an hour is detailed in my post which refers to a hands-on video post by Graham Houghton. Panasonic ZS-3 Conversion was simple, six screws and two simple cable clamps removed the back. I used Dollar tree small screwdrivers, be sure to make a map of the camera showing the placement of the screws... they are different lengths. I am happy with my converted camera it is sufficient when the IR urge arises. NO, it is not a DSLR camera... it is a simple pocket camera if you want to have an "I am a professional IR photographer" camera you can do that later.
Houghton's video part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frtQxryDTo8

My post about the conversion and a lot of links for information... spend the day reading... look on eBay for a used camera that fits the family of cameras discussed. My cameras years ago cost about $100. A filter adapter was
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-547605-1.html

Filter to the camera was accomplished by using a ring with male threads removed with my Drummel hobby grinder and epoxy to the camera. Houghton uses adhesive tape...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDWr4iWwD48

You can see why full spectra with low-cost 37 mm or 52mm filters is the fun way to go.
http://kolarivision.com/articles/choosing-a-filter/
Trapper said: " entry-level information on in... (show quote)


You obviously did not understand the gist of my post. I was asking for sources of general information on IR photography so I could decide whether or not to pursue that genre. Most of the other respondents understood my post eactly and for their input, I am most appreciative as their advice is precisely what I was looking for. As my first interest, wildlife phography, is severly limited now due to my having spinal stenosis, I thought IR photography would be an interesting facet of photography, something I could pursue despite my limited mobility.

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