MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

Currently at 1499 at B&H... If one wanted a predominately landscape, tripod mounted kit, using appropriate high quality lenses, is there much of a reason NOT to purchase at this price point... In looking at sample pics with say a 16-35 L, the detail is astounding. Tell me I am wrong to NOT bring out the plastic card and Never have to worry about a landscape body again...

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I’m happy with mine. No regrets. Have no idea how your personal finances compare with mine. For me it’s not an everyday camera, so $950 with the grip and 33k clicks was affordable enuf for a limited purpose camera body.

That price left me some lens money. I don’t subscribe to the idea that 50MP demands only the utmost ultra optics, but there’s no denying that extra pixels could more readily reveal imaging flaws.

Therefor, to reduce real world flaws I took two measures:
1. A better tripod so I can use it more readily.
2. A set of stabilized prime lenses for off-tripod sharpness.

Acoarst I won’t trust the SLR AF system for focusing the wider 2 or 3 apertures on each lens, depending on FL. The LV AF is slow but always dead accurate.

So thaz my version of sharpness: Tripod or IS, accurate focus, and prime lenses.

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Hogsters hate math, but 50MP is not 2X the resolution of 25MP. It’s 1.4X. A 40% increase rewards a more careful approach to technique but the myth that 50MP demands only the greatest of optical masterpieces is really laughable. (Four used primes cost 2X the $$ as the used camera itself.)

If you plan to use yours as a general use camera with a pair of zooms instead of primes, the lens $$ gets outrageous. Again, I don’t know your finances or intended use. I’m OK with my limited $$ and limited use. YMMV.

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

Thank you for your honest input...

ImageCreator Loc: Northern California

I have one on order, paid for, but with no clue when or if they will be able to fulfill my order.. I plan to use the camera for everything except bitds in flight. For everything that the 5Dsr is not good for I'll use my 5D4. I'm chomping at the bit to get the 5Dsr in action.

I suggest if you want the 5Dsr then place an order now.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Those super megapixel, high density sensors are very susceptible to motion blur if the camera isn't perfectly still. The landscape moving you don't really need to worry about. Well here in CA along the San Andreas we might have that problem from time to time.

ImageCreator Loc: Northern California

Wouldn't you have the same problem with the R5 at 45mp? A solution might be to up the shutter spd for handheld.

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Fortunately the R5 has IBIS.

Hunting down IS primes, fit for Canon EF, was quite a chore. There’s only about ten choices ever built, all brands combined. Most are already discontinued.

Canon offers several normal lenses, sadly none has IS. Tamron makes the only one.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

I don't own the 5Dsr or the R5. I was basing my opinion on other high MP cameras that I know people who own one. And a few articles here and there about how to use those extreme MP cameras and problems some people have with them.

My worst body for motion blur is my 90D with 32.5mp on an aps-c sensor. It takes a lot of light and very high SS or a sturdy tripod to avoid motion blur.

jim quist Loc: Missouri

My wife uses a 5D mk4, and I use a 1DX mk3. We are both happy with the results we get and just don't see a need to change to another body.

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Routine cameras for routine applications makes perfect sense.

Your comment about seeing no need to “change to another body” confirms that the SR is not realistic for you. IMNSHO, as a user, it’s unrealistic to “change to” the RS. It’s specialized enough that it can’t replace routine gear. It augments your kit. It’s really NOT intended as a foundation for a general purpose kit. It makes no sense to “change to” an RS.

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Though I never succumbed to the wild fantasies Hogsters believe concerning “care and feeding” of extra MP, even a casual test run alerts you that extra MP do call for more careful technique and reasonable care in choosing lenses.

Since I was already using 80MP, the RS put no new demands on me. But there aren’t any T/S lenses for the 80MP outfit so now I have this Canon for T/S stuff.

bweber Loc: Newton, MA

I have used a 5DSR since the camera was introduced. I used it for everything with very little problems. I use Canon "L" lenses, that I have purchased over time, as I do think you should use high quality lenses to obtain the best results from this sensor. Some time I shoot with a slightly higher shutter speed that I need for exposure. This is a wonderful camera. There is no reason to limit your used of it. I do not use the Canon much anymore as I recently upgraded to a Fuji GF 100S, a 100 mp medium format camera with built in stabilization. I kept the Canon for use with long lenses and I still shoot some portraits with it.

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Why would a high megapixel camera have more of an issue with motion blur than a lower resolution camera?

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The EOS 80D is slightly more dense than the 5DRS. Shouldn’t that make it equally susceptible ? I’ve never noticed any such concerns being discussed about the 80D ... but since Canon crop cameras don’t really interest me maybe I just failed to notice some discussions about the issue ?

I have Sony 6500s which are about the same density as the RS but 6500s have IBIS, which I find verrrry effective. And acoarst some users of the 80D, and the many other non-stabilized 25MP APSC cameras, might be using very effective OIS lenses. Most folks don’t buy into a compact format with any intentions of lugging around a tripod !

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

The pixels are smaller so any movement of subject or camera is more likely to cause parts of the image to register on more than one pixel = blur.

And of course it is worse with smaller sensors. But even a FF can have it happen with slow SS or no tripod.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

The 80D doesn't have a problem with high shutter speeds in good light. My 90D (32.5mp, pixel density over 9) on the other hand has problems at 1/2000 and below.

I mentioned it because some people don't use tripods for landscapes, slower shutter speeds because the subject isn't moving and if they aren't rock steady the problem can appear. And then they wonder what is wrong with their camera.