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Question RE: resizing
Sep 23, 2021 15:13:14   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
The enclosed pix, one of my favorites from my film days, was originally shot as a slide, in portrait. While transferring to digital it became more landscape. The original slide is gone. Is there a way, in photoshop, that I can change this to portrait? I want to get more of the bottom in the picture. Thanks.
John



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Sep 23, 2021 15:33:07   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
John7199 wrote:
The enclosed pix, one of my favorites from my film days, was originally shot as a slide, in portrait. While transferring to digital it became more landscape. The original slide is gone. Is there a way, in photoshop, that I can change this to portrait? I want to get more of the bottom in the picture. Thanks.
John


Do you mean this is not the whole image, it was cut off in going to digital? If so it is gone, only a rescan of the original will recover the rest of it. And you say you don't have the original. All my stuff going to digital I keep the slides and negatives (only keep prints if you want). If it was a scanned print I keep that also in a storage box.

If it is the whole image or if you just want it portrait then put it into your editor, crop to the edges of the image. But in this case it will be square.

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Sep 23, 2021 17:49:09   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
John7199 wrote:
The enclosed pix, one of my favorites from my film days, was originally shot as a slide, in portrait. While transferring to digital it became more landscape. The original slide is gone. Is there a way, in photoshop, that I can change this to portrait? I want to get more of the bottom in the picture. Thanks.
John


Excellent 💛💙❤️💙💛

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Sep 24, 2021 11:17:50   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
John7199 wrote:
The enclosed pix, one of my favorites from my film days, was originally shot as a slide, in portrait. While transferring to digital it became more landscape. The original slide is gone. Is there a way, in photoshop, that I can change this to portrait? I want to get more of the bottom in the picture. Thanks.
John


All you can do is crop it to the portrait orientation you like. I tried but couldn't get the standard 2x3 portrait out of it.



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Sep 24, 2021 11:26:01   #
Linda2 Loc: Yakima Wa.
 
I have barely entered the extensive world of PP but I thought there was a program that could actually “stretch” a photo a bit without distortion?

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Sep 24, 2021 14:09:45   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
John7199 wrote:
The enclosed pix, one of my favorites from my film days, was originally shot as a slide, in portrait. While transferring to digital it became more landscape. The original slide is gone. Is there a way, in photoshop, that I can change this to portrait? I want to get more of the bottom in the picture. Thanks.
John

Not exactly sure what you mean, but I cut out the sides a bit, and stretched it a bit to get to 1.5:1 ratio. I don't know what the "standard" portrait ratio is, but that's the ratio my Nikon takes, my other camera's take different ratio's. Stretching is not good but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Also, I used Affinity Photo, not PS, but it works the same.

I cropped the photo (unconstrained) removing the black sides as they are meaningless. Then cropped it again using 2x3 ratio and stretched it with the move tool to fit. I don't recall how PS does this, but anyway, I stretched it to fit which meant removing some of the left side.

Anyway this is what I managed to get. I left all the bottom in the photo.


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Sep 24, 2021 14:48:06   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
Big Daddy
I like what you have done - I will try to duplicate it.
John

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Sep 24, 2021 15:22:43   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
John7199 wrote:
Big Daddy
I like what you have done - I will try to duplicate it.
John

Thanks John. I was a little loose in my steps to do this, and step by step might be a little different in PS.
First, I cropped off the black sides.
Next, I "cropped" using a 2x3 ratio. I say cropped because that's the tool I used and essentially that just added empty space to the top and bottom. I could have resized the CANVAS which would have done the same thing. Now I had your photo, still not a portrait, but in a portrait frame with empty space in the top and bottom.

Now here is where I no longer recall how PS handles this. I selected just your photo (double click on photo), not the empty parts of the canvas then, I grabbed the Move tool and held down Ctrl+Alt and dragged the move handles to fit the new size of the canvas, which stretches the photo equally on all four sides. In Affinity, you can still move the photo around including the parts "cropped" because Affinity doesn't really crop anything unless your perform a Rasterize and Trim operation which then will remove the cropped portion of the photo. I think this is different than PS.

Anyway I used to think you would ruin a picture if you stretched it at all, but discovered you can do more stretching than I thought w/o serious damage. You just need to be careful with proportions, ie constrained vs unconstrained.

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Sep 24, 2021 18:19:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Linda2 wrote:
I have barely entered the extensive world of PP but I thought there was a program that could actually “stretch” a photo a bit without distortion?


Stretch = distortion

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Sep 24, 2021 18:50:14   #
Linda2 Loc: Yakima Wa.
 
robertjerl wrote:
Stretch = distortion


I should have said without “too much” distortion. Looking at the subject I didn’t think just a bit would hurt.🙂

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Sep 24, 2021 19:04:04   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Linda2 wrote:
I should have said without “too much” distortion. Looking at the subject I didn’t think just a bit would hurt.🙂


It would depend on the image, some can be stretched and look OK. Others NO! Try a horizontal stretch of a picture of someone who is obsessive about their weight. The same person would probably be OK with a bit of vertical stretch so long as it didn't turn them into a freak.

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Sep 24, 2021 21:15:29   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
robertjerl wrote:
It would depend on the image, some can be stretched and look OK. Others NO! Try a horizontal stretch of a picture of someone who is obsessive about their weight. The same person would probably be OK with a bit of vertical stretch so long as it didn't turn them into a freak.

No, you can't stretch one plane, you need to stretch both horizontal and vertical planes the same proportions. If you do this, it will not distort. All editors I've used will resize proportionally, or just one dimension.

In other words, if I stretch the obsessive weight persons photo proportionally the same in horizontal and vertical axis, they will maintain the same physical proportions. That's why the Muppets proportions didn't change when I stretched both planes equally and then chopped off the sides to fit in a portrait frame.

Of course you can't take a 400x600 image and stretch it to 4000x6000 without losing photo quality in resampling, but the proportions of the weight conscious will be fine.

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Sep 24, 2021 23:10:17   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
BigDaddy wrote:
No, you can't stretch one plane, you need to stretch both horizontal and vertical planes the same proportions. If you do this, it will not distort. All editors I've used will resize proportionally, or just one dimension.

In other words, if I stretch the obsessive weight persons photo proportionally the same in horizontal and vertical axis, they will maintain the same physical proportions. That's why the Muppets proportions didn't change when I stretched both planes equally and then chopped off the sides to fit in a portrait frame.

Of course you can't take a 400x600 image and stretch it to 4000x6000 without losing photo quality in resampling, but the proportions of the weight conscious will be fine.
No, you can't stretch one plane, you need to stret... (show quote)


I know all that, it is just I got the impression the OP wanted to go portrait without losing part of the image. And to get a portrait you had to crop some of the sides off.

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