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Sep 15, 2021 13:41:01   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
Make sure you are well guarded by guards with submachine guns. Egypt is rife with terrorists!

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Sep 15, 2021 14:19:10   #
skipwv Loc: West Virginia
 
wannabe63 wrote:
In October of this year, my wife and I will be joining a tour group to Egypt hitting the usual popular spots in Cairo, Luxor, Valley of the Kings, River Cruise on the Nile, etc. We will also be going to Petra in Jordan. As my everyday go to equipment I plan on using a Nikon D750 with Nikkor 28-300 f3.5-5.6, and a Nikkor 16-35 f4 lenses.

1st question concerns the camera settings while inside the tombs. I'm guessing that the lighting will be different in each tomb so settings will be critical and change in each tomb. In order to cover most situations I was thinking of setting the camera to shutter priority at 200, auto WB, turn on auto-ISO set to minimum of 100 to maximum of 6400. What are your thoughts? Any other specific settings?

2nd question relates to the entire tour in general. What filters would you recommend?

3rd - I would like to get a shot of the Milky Way with a pyramid, sphinx or something Egyptian in the foreground. I will be using a tripod and a Rokinon 14mm f2.8 lens. For those that have been there, and assuming the right conditions, no light pollution exist, do you think this is doable?

Stay tuned. I may have more questions as they come to mind.

Thanks for your input.
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We did a similar trip in 2010. My thoughts: your lens choices are good, with the 28-300 being sufficient for most things, although a really wide angle is good for some pyramid and Sphinx shots. You will NOT be allowed to shoot inside most tombs, unless they have loosened up in ten years. Lighting is good inside, however, if they do allow it. (We were told to leave photo gear on the bus or not take it with us at all on visits to the Valley of the Kings and the Pyramids.)

I used no filters. "Maybe" a light neutral density filter could be handy sometimes, but I had no trouble with sun and exposures.

There is a lot of light pollution around the Sphinx and Pyramids since they all are floodlit at night. The lights of Giza and even Cairo tend to brighten the night sky, too. You might get lucky but I never saw a good night sky on the Giza Plateau. Dust is a consideration, too, since it frequently blots out the sky with a brownish haze.

Dust-proofing your gear is something to think about. I used a gross of zipper baggies when we were on the move, and I tried to avoid changing lenses except on the bus. Your two zooms will help a lot.

Since you are taking a Nile cruise, plan to do lots of shooting from the boat. Life along the Nile is fascinating and I have some wonderful shots of people, animals, farms, etc., on the banks. Pay attention to the people around you and look for good character shots (and be prepared to offer some baksheesh!).

Egypt was a most interesting country. Enjoy your trip!

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Sep 15, 2021 14:22:07   #
windshoppe Loc: Arizona
 
When we were there the Pyramids were lit at night. Not conducive for Milky Way photography.

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Sep 15, 2021 14:35:21   #
Hsch39 Loc: Northbrook, Illinois
 
9 years ago my wife and I were on a 4-week self-drive trip in Jordan and Egypt.
I had a Canon 5D II and used only a 24-70mm f/2.8 throughout the trip. My wife used a
Canon Powershot G 12. On your first question, I can show one example where you need a fast lens.
Since you will be on a Nile River Cruise, you will be stopping at the Kom Ombo Temple and the
Crocodile museum. As you can see in the metadata of the top image - 1/30 sec, f/2.8, and ISO 1600,
that a fast lens will help. 2nd question: I only used a clear filter. On your 3rd question about the Milky Way with pyramids, I only can tell you there is a lot of light pollution. Cairo is only 3-4 miles from the pyramides, and Giza itself is not a small City. You also would have to find out if you can enter the park at night.
Have a great time, you will enjoy Luxor, also Petra is a wonderful place to visit.


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Sep 15, 2021 14:42:41   #
slammer99uk
 
I did this with my daughter 7 years ago - You will not be allowed to take pictures in the the tombs in the VotK - Do not flout the rules, you may end up with a large fine, deletion of your pictures and possible confiscation of kit. Dont bother with King Tutankhamun's tomb, it's empty and an extra cost - Take your guides advice on which 3 tombs to visit (when we were there you purchase a ticket to visit 3 in the valley)

You will be fine in the outside temples during your stops along the Nile, Kom Ombo, Luxor etc.

We didn't do Cairo, as at the time it was particularly dangerous. However I hear the Cairo Museum is a must visit if you are there anyway.

Shooting at sunset from the boat produces some good results.

Enjoy your trip and stay safe.


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Sep 15, 2021 16:21:31   #
Guzser02
 
wannabe63 wrote:
In October of this year, my wife and I will be joining a tour group to Egypt hitting the usual popular spots in Cairo, Luxor, Valley of the Kings, River Cruise on the Nile, etc. We will also be going to Petra in Jordan. As my everyday go to equipment I plan on using a Nikon D750 with Nikkor 28-300 f3.5-5.6, and a Nikkor 16-35 f4 lenses.

1st question concerns the camera settings while inside the tombs. I'm guessing that the lighting will be different in each tomb so settings will be critical and change in each tomb. In order to cover most situations I was thinking of setting the camera to shutter priority at 200, auto WB, turn on auto-ISO set to minimum of 100 to maximum of 6400. What are your thoughts? Any other specific settings?

2nd question relates to the entire tour in general. What filters would you recommend?

3rd - I would like to get a shot of the Milky Way with a pyramid, sphinx or something Egyptian in the foreground. I will be using a tripod and a Rokinon 14mm f2.8 lens. For those that have been there, and assuming the right conditions, no light pollution exist, do you think this is doable?

Stay tuned. I may have more questions as they come to mind.

Thanks for your input.
In October of this year, my wife and I will be joi... (show quote)


Good news-have a great trip.
Some of the tombs are not well lit and those that are have fluorescent lighting. Try to use auto white balance. DEFINETLY take a good headlamp. The texture and detail will make you pause.
Filters: A good CPL will cover you both in abundant and poor light.

History: familiarize yourself with both the history, terminology and geography. You'll be two steps ahead of the game.

Take a good lens cleaner. [Microfiber cloths and lens wipes.]

CAUTION: many strangers will offer to "take your picture" with your camera.---DON'T. It is never free, and you might not see your camera again. It sounds silly to say it but its the convincing smiles that persuade you to do the unthinkable.

Enjoy the trip and the spiritual journey.

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Sep 15, 2021 17:30:04   #
Robg
 
wannabe63 wrote:
In October of this year, my wife and I will be joining a tour group to Egypt....

You are in for a fabulous trip! I was there in March of 2019. While wandering around the pyramids in Giza the wind suddenly started blowing, kicked up some sand, and we were in our own mini sandstorm. Unfortunately the sand got into my zoom lens and killed it. So be forewarned!

Our tour had an armed tourist policeman with us everywhere we went. He had his own seat at the front of the bus, and when the group got out to walk around, he would always ensure that he was behind everyone so that he could keep an eye on all of us. I managed once, and only once, to get behind him so that I could take the picture below.

Egypt instituted the tourist police a number of years ago in recognition of the importance of tourism to the Egyptian economy.

Below are a few other pictures, including the Nile in Cairo at night, a panorama of the Valley of the Kings, and a Nilometer (looks like a well) that was used, in this case, to measure the height of the water table as related to the nearby Nile river.

Egyptian Tourist Policeman
Egyptian Tourist Policeman...

Cairo: Nile river at night
Cairo: Nile river at night...

Valley of the Kings
Valley of the Kings...

Nilometer
Nilometer...

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Sep 15, 2021 17:31:50   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Seabastes wrote:
Quote Reply In October of this year, my wife and I will be joining a tour group to Egypt hitting the usual popular spots in Cairo, Luxor, Valley of the Kings, River Cruise on the Nile, etc. We will also be going to Petra in Jordan. As my everyday go to equipment I plan on using a Nikon D750 with Nikkor 28-300 f3.5-5.6, and a Nikkor 16-35 f4 lenses.

I went into my files and checked to see which lenses I used several years ago on a ten day trip to Egypt.
The most used lenses were a 18-55 and a 18-200. Both were fairly slow lenses F4-56 range. ISO 100 to 200 were the most common settings. The lenses you plan on taking should be ideal for your trip.

Things you should know.

You may be hit on for tips. I say this based on being in Egypt some 12 years ago. Carry some fairly small bills in your shirt pocket where you have fairly easy access. Don't be surprised if someone you photographed or bought from reaches into your pocket when you say that is all the money you are carrying. Smile a lot, in a way it is a game. If you have the opportunity to sit on a busy street, you can take make many photo situations that will be around you. There are some places that don't allow photos.

Take a second camera body. You can't be sure when one will break when you most need it. A good P&S is worth having with you if you don't take a second camera body.

Have a wonderful trip. Here are a few images I made.
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Eye-catching, beautiful shots
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Sep 15, 2021 17:45:09   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Robg wrote:
You are in for a fabulous trip! I was there in March of 2019. While wandering around the pyramids in Giza the wind suddenly started blowing, kicked up some sand, and we were in our own mini sandstorm. Unfortunately the sand got into my zoom lens and killed it. So be forewarned!

Our tour had an armed tourist policeman with us everywhere we went. He had his own seat at the front of the bus, and when the group got out to walk around, he would always ensure that he was behind everyone so that he could keep an eye on all of us. I managed once, and only once, to get behind him so that I could take the picture below.

Egypt instituted the tourist police a number of years ago in recognition of the importance of tourism to the Egyptian economy.

Below are a few other pictures, including the Nile in Cairo at night, a panorama of the Valley of the Kings, and a Nilometer (looks like a well) that was used, in this case, to measure the height of the water table as related to the nearby Nile river.
You are in for a fabulous trip! I was there in Mar... (show quote)


Beautiful, but Two is a real winner
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Sep 15, 2021 18:35:14   #
Robg
 
joecichjr wrote:
Beautiful, but Two is a real winner
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Thank you!

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Sep 15, 2021 19:32:48   #
Judy795
 
I was there in Oct 2019. Loved it all, wish I could return. Most of my shots were with Nikon D750 and 24-70 f/2.8 NR. Not much in the tombs. Wish I had day and night at Wadi Rum and overnight at Petra. Very hard to do pyramids at Giza without a private driver who stays with you the whole time. If you are on a group tour (we used Abercrombie and Kent) your leader could find one for you. We had to follow a schedule and many times didn’t feel safe going out on our own. There were only 10 in our group and we still had to be careful. I would love to do a photography expedition of Jordan and Egypt.

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Sep 16, 2021 01:56:46   #
wannabe63 Loc: Bellevue, Washington
 
MichaelStacy wrote:
Is this thru O.A.T. by any chance? We are scheduled for Nov 2022


No it's thru Vantage. We've traveled with them before with no complaints from our end. I've heard a lot of good things said about O.A.T. though.

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Sep 16, 2021 02:20:02   #
wannabe63 Loc: Bellevue, Washington
 
Thank you for your suggestions. Other hoggers have suggested some of the same.

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Sep 16, 2021 02:30:15   #
wannabe63 Loc: Bellevue, Washington
 
PhotoDerek wrote:
wannabe63,
went to Luxor in 1998 - few comments
lost weight 1lb a day with loose bowels,
hot and dusty,
walked down into a tomb - hot, dusty and claustrophobic - was shooting film so skylight filter and not removed from zoom lens, lens was covered with dust,
did not use a polariser as sky was blue, nor any grads,
carry a lens cleaning cloth or use a blower when outside the tomb,
do not change lenses in a tomb,
keep yourself fit (especially leg strength) as walking down into the tomb was quite physical - bent over due to low roof and carrying a SLR with zoom lens in one hand and holding a hand rail as the descent into the tomb was steep,
my lungs are ok, never smoked but if you smoke maybe time to stop as the tombs will stress your lungs with dust and heat and physicality.
Just watch out especially around Hatshepsut's temple as this was the site of a terrorist attack on tourists - be aware,
People usually finish these article with a would you return? NO.
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Oops don't like the back issue. I've had problems over the years. I'll be sure to bring Ibuprofen.

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Sep 16, 2021 02:35:10   #
wannabe63 Loc: Bellevue, Washington
 
Stardust wrote:
Been to Egypt in 2019 & 2017, lenses are good choices, a polarized filter and/or clear filter to protect from sand is max needed if any, no ND required because sand helps avoid hot spots. Unlikely to get Milky Way near Pyramids with fair amount of light pollution from Giza, shops, cars, etc. Cairo never sleeps! Plus basically can only shoot Pyramids from Giza side at night unless can get your guide or known taxi driver (someone hotel recommends) to take you out at night. If you go inside the Pyramids (venture to climb to the Tomb Room) your camera or photos are not allowed - makes no sense - but EVERYONE carries their cell phones. <wink>. Finally, I won't waste space on do's & don'ts except do not shoot inspection points. (I was shooting street scene, they saw my camera raised, had to show last dozen shots to prove no photos & guide did some smooth over talking).

Valley of Kings Tombs are fairly well-lit, must buy a camera pass ($3 in 2019). And if I may add two suggestions. Visit the once in a lifetime King Tut tomb, with his mummy now back in it - will cost you an extra reasonable ticket - and consider a daybreak hot air balloon ride over the Valley of the Kings if your trip allows. Very safe equipment - better than States - an amazing, photographic experience. Enjoy, out of 52 countries visited in my top 3-4. Going back soon when new GEM is fully open near Pyramids.
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Great suggestions. I was thinking of taking a hot air balloon ride if one is offered. Now I'll plan on it if available.

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