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Sep 15, 2021 14:29:33   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
quixdraw wrote:
Oh would that it was so little $ difference! I have generally had good experience with both OEM and aftermarket - till this one, the score was even, one failure each down many years.


Maybe it can be as much as $30 difference with the modern batteries costing a bit more - still I feel the extra money is worth it - especially if you shoot professionally as I do. The last think I need is a battery dying out of the blue on a paid shoot.

I'll only buy OEM due to my experiences with both the aftermarket batteries I have owned.

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Sep 15, 2021 14:30:35   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
baron_silverton wrote:
Maybe it can be as much as $30 difference with the modern batteries costing a bit more - still I feel the extra money is worth it - especially if you shoot professionally as I do. The last think I need is a battery dying out of the blue on a paid shoot.

I'll only buy OEM due to my experiences with both the aftermarket batteries I have owned.


Whatever works for you!

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Sep 15, 2021 14:32:50   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
quixdraw wrote:
Whatever works for you!


Yep - just sharing the experiences I have had - I also have never spoken to any pro (or camera store agent for that matter) that feels that after market batteries are nearly as good.

If you have had better luck with them, I am glad to hear that - I haven't and I understand that most people don't.

Have a great day! :)

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Sep 15, 2021 14:37:24   #
Badgertale Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
 
quixdraw wrote:
No chance of that, all the Wards were in place.



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Sep 15, 2021 15:20:03   #
AnotherBob
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
Yes, yrs ago and I don't remember the brand but It wasn't Nikon , It was my first and LAST third party battery.


My experience too. An off-brand from B&H; fine one day, dead the next. Perhaps you really do get what you pay for. I still buy batteries from B&H, but always Nikon brand.

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Sep 15, 2021 15:42:05   #
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quixdraw wrote:
I was using the D3 yesterday evening, everything normal. Grabbed it on the way out early this morning to check on something. Stopped to take a picture, the camera was completely dead. I had checked the battery yesterday and there was 70 odd percent of charge left. Got home, put a fresh battery in and the camera was fine. Put the old one in the charger, the charger wouldn't light up. Another spare put in and the charger performed normally. This is an off brand, but one of my batteries that registered as new. Did you ever experience or here of something like that?
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The 70% you saw is not 70% of *rated* capacity. Cameras don’t know the amp hour rating of a battery. They measure what’s at hand.

The battery was likely operating less than half of rated capacity. When the charger tops it off it’s topped off at that diminished capacity. Like the camera, the charger does not know the amp hour rating. It just sees the present recharge health of any battery as being normal for the battery.

I’ve got 1.8 and 2.6 amp hour batteries of the same model number (manufactured years apart) and the charger just charges both versions to completely full.

I have an old SLR that reports the “recharge health” of the battery. That report can be “33% or less. Time to replace”. But the state of charge can still be reporting 90 to 100% and the charger still reliably stops when that dying battery is topped off to whatever its current capacity may be. Any battery in such poor recharge heath could easily just “die in its sleep” like yours did. But remember, it was barely alive anywho.

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Sep 15, 2021 16:19:28   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Does anyone know who makes Canon batteries for them. After one bad experience with after market batteries ill only buy orginal now for few dollars more


If the original is only a few dollars more, you've paid way too much for the third party battery! When I bought a third party battery (to use as an emergency backup battery), it cost me only about 1/3 of the price of a battery from the camera's manufacturer, which is certainly more than a few dollars difference. I think the difference was around $30.

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Sep 15, 2021 16:40:05   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
A pittance they say, lets see. Nikon has the battery "Archived". At B&H a new EN EL 4, $159.95, Watson $59.95, a C Note isn't a pittance to me. On line, Wasabi $39.99, Kastar, 2 for $37.99. I have long experience with Wasabi, and wouldn't hesitate there. I have had few failures with OEM or off brand, performance has been indistinguishable. I have several cameras that use the same battery and others that are one off. If I needed another to replace the one that failed, I'd get the Wasabi, I can do all sorts of things with $120.

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Sep 15, 2021 18:51:26   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
rook2c4 wrote:
If the original is only a few dollars more, you've paid way too much for the third party battery! When I bought a third party battery (to use as an emergency backup battery), it cost me only about 1/3 of the price of a battery from the camera's manufacturer, which is certainly more than a few dollars difference. I think the difference was around $30.

Still $30 is nothing compared to thousands of dollars in camera equipment.

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Sep 15, 2021 18:53:55   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I do have some off brand batteries with very little use. I'll charge them fully and use them but will carry a spare too

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Sep 16, 2021 07:22:52   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
The LP-E6N CANON BATTERY T Amazon is $40. I can get 4 Wasabi batteries same specs from Amazon for $40. At the price difference, if one goes bad, I have 3 more to go. So far, my Wasabis are acting fine. 1-3 can be stored in my pocket.

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