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XQD or CFexpress for D850
Aug 1, 2021 19:39:06   #
CliffMcKenzie Loc: Lake Athens Texas
 
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.

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Aug 1, 2021 20:08:44   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.
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After the purchase of my D850 I read the firmware for CFexpress was going to be released, about 90 days later it was. Have been using Lexar CFexpress after update. There is nothing wrong with XQD cards but have read in different articles that XQD cards would be going the way of the Betamax.

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Aug 1, 2021 20:39:07   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
If prices come down for CF I'll switch. But then I'll also have to buy a reader so they'll have to come down quite a bit to make it worth my time and money.

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Aug 1, 2021 22:03:33   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.
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Did I miss the capacity of the XQD?

The speed of my D850 with XQD and SD is plenty. The capacities are equally satisfying factory. If I need more cards, which is doubtful, I would stick with what I'm using. There should be plenty of advance notice if my next camera needs CF.

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Aug 2, 2021 01:54:39   #
larryepage
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.
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Hi Cliff. I find that my style of shooting doesn't depend on the speed of the memory cards. I never fill the camera's buffer. So I'm still using the SD card for raw files and smaller XQD cards for JPEGS and the rare video in both my D850 and D500s. If my usage ever changes, I'll look at swapping slot assignments and reconfigure with different card sizes in the slots.

I've got the updated firmware in all of the cameras, but am still using XQD cards. As either the price difference drops a little more or XQD cards get harder to f8nd, I'll gradually switch. But I do not expect to buy or trade for any new cameras, so I don't feel any need or pressure to "buy for the future." And I believe that the speeds of the XQD cards I have are pretty well-balanced against the design speed of the cameras and card interfaces, so would not expect any meaningful performance improvement from a switch. Some folks claim a speed improvement with the faster cards when transferring files to a computer. I have found most computers to be port-limited on transfer speed, so in most cases, any perceived improvement is pretty much just inagined. (But I know there are a few exceptions to that.)

As newer cameras are introduced, I'd expect to see more real difference. But I'd also expect fewer and fewer of those cameras to be set up to use the older XQD cards.0

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Aug 2, 2021 06:18:58   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
I have been using XQD cards in my D500, but when I purchased a Z7II, Hunts Photo threw in CFExpress card and reader, so I am now using both. I notice no difference in capture speed in my usage, and they transfer at virtually the same speed, which I can measure. So far, I have the bigger investment in XQD cards, so I’ll probably stick with those a long as I can.

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Aug 2, 2021 07:34:28   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional rea... (show quote)


I shoot wildlife, and I want all the speed and buffer I can get, enter XQD. If I am shooting landscapes and modeling, CF is more than adequate.

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Aug 2, 2021 07:47:42   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I use an XQD card in my D850, along with the second recommended card. .I have a reader that takes both. I see no reason to change that.
--Bob
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional rea... (show quote)

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Aug 2, 2021 09:01:32   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
rmalarz wrote:
I use an XQD card in my D850, along with the second recommended card. .I have a reader that takes both. I see no reason to change that.
--Bob


Bob I think there would be no reason to change if XQD already purchase, I do think if a first time purchase going with CFexpress would be the way to go because manufacturers are moving in the direction of CFexpress.

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Aug 2, 2021 10:29:57   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
billnikon wrote:
I shoot wildlife, and I want all the speed and buffer I can get, enter XQD. If I am shooting landscapes and modeling, CF is more than adequate.


He’s actually asking about CFExpress, which is faster than XQD. Really for still photography XQD is more than sufficient. I have both. The downside to using both is 2 readers. I’ve seen some complain about $100 CFExpress readers but I got one from Amazon for $30 and it works great.

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Aug 2, 2021 15:42:45   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
CF Express cards are newer technology and have faster r/w speeds and can transfer files from card readers to computer faster than XQD.

No reason to buy old technology.

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Aug 2, 2021 17:49:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional reader and 1 or 2 XQD cards and discovered the marketing direction is CFexpress. Price points for the cards (Sony 128 CFE $200 vs. XQD $168) are close. Read\Write speed not close. Search UHH database and little has been said other than last December firmware upgrade to make it happen.

For Nikon D850, is now the time to make the change? Additionally, I use Photo Mechanic for initial upload, while my computer is fast, will I actually get a faster read\upload? Any direction is appreciated.
UHH brethren, considering adding an additional rea... (show quote)


The XQD cards will last as long as your camera if not longer.
So either one you ask about will be just fine.

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Aug 2, 2021 22:18:29   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
He’s actually asking about CFExpress, which is faster than XQD. Really for still photography XQD is more than sufficient. I have both. The downside to using both is 2 readers. I’ve seen some complain about $100 CFExpress readers but I got one from Amazon for $30 and it works great.


I have enough XQD cards to last me into the grave. I'm totally fine with the speed both down and write...<shrug> when the new Z9 comes out I'll use what I have. Hopefully!

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Aug 3, 2021 11:09:36   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Even though express b is the intrinsically faster card, the d850 is not wired to take advantage of it. The difference maker is estimating future purchases.

Later cameras will be wired ( or chanelled) for faster so you will likely buy the new reader then. But if you wont ever need extreme speed, it's a wash because future express cameras will be backwards compatible with xqd.

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