Transfer Lightroom to new computer: My five year old Lenovo was getting bogged down quite often, so after reviewing UHH user comments I ended up with a Dell XPS and 32GB of ram. I...

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

My five year old Lenovo was getting bogged down quite often, so after reviewing UHH user comments I ended up with a Dell XPS and 32GB of ram.

I installed Lightroom 6 from disk only to find it does not support the Sony ARW files. As Adobe no longer supports Lightroom 6 the camera updates are no longer available.

Question: Is there any way to transfer the updates from the Lenovo to the Dell?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Maybe?
Do you possibly have all your sequential update files in a download folder somewhere?

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

Longshadow wrote:

Maybe?
Do you possibly have all your sequential update files in a download folder somewhere?

Not that I'm aware of. I just performed the updates without knowing anything else except they worked. No idea where they reside in the file structure.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

neilds37 wrote:

Not that I'm aware of. I just performed the updates without knowing anything else except they worked. No idea where they reside in the file structure.

Some programs download update processes that get left on the drive after they are run;
some download, run; and remove the update program/data;
some download little loader programs that go get and install the updated from the manufacturer's server;
some even replace the entire program.

If there existed a complete history of updates, one could possibly run those in the proper sequence.
The problem would be (it would throw up) if the update data is pulled from the manufacturer's site instead of being self-contained. The update information would no longer be available on the server. Had that happen to me once. Bought the newer version.......

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

The disk (probably) had Lightroom 6.0. It gradually worked through a series of full replacements to 6.14. When you were doing that on the old computer, the installation file downloaded and was then executed. Look for the downloaded installation files.

That said, Lightroom Classic is up to 10.3. It may be worth $10 a month if you enjoy photography enough to buy a new computer for it. Four full versions may actually have some significant new, fun features!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

I believe the Windows link below can be used to download the v6.14 install file. Just right-click the link in your browser and save the link (file) to your local drive. No promises except that is does come from Adobe, execute the downloaded file as a Windows Admin.

You can also open a technical support chat with Adobe (Adobe.com, sign-in, find Support and Contact Us - Chat). Assuming you have a valid v6 serial number in your profile from your purchase, you just need them to give you a link to the download & install file. It will probably be the same link below.

Windows x64
http://prdl-download.adobe.com/Lightroom/60BA1251F1BC48B8B82B1B63AE8E620E/1552643270580/Lightroom_6_LS11.exe

Do the install first onto your new computer. Then, copy the entire \Lightroom folder from your old computer that was probably inside your "Pictures" folder, the folder with the LRCAT file. Replace all the contents on the target computer. Start LR and you should be good to go, assuming all your images are in their proper locations on the target computer.

Be sure to save the LR install file for future use.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

Thank you Longshadow, bsprauge, and CHG_CANON for your informed responses. That covers the information I was hoping for. A relative we haven't seen since 2010 just showed up, so I'll have to wait a bit to put it to use.
Cheers, Neil

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

bsprague wrote:

The disk (probably) had Lightroom 6.0. It gradually worked through a series of full replacements to 6.14. When you were doing that on the old computer, the installation file downloaded and was then executed. Look for the downloaded installation files.

That said, Lightroom Classic is up to 10.3. It may be worth $10 a month if you enjoy photography enough to buy a new computer for it. Four full versions may actually have some significant new, fun features!

I agree with the last statement. LR classic has been changed incrementally over the years, but those incremental changes add up - you'll be surprised what more it can do!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Want to know one thing LR6 doesn't do (on Windows): suddenly stop working every few weeks ala https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-704691-1.html

If your camera's RAW files are supported by v6.14, you have every tool you need. When you change cameras, that's when to consider changing your software.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

bsprague wrote:

The disk (probably) had Lightroom 6.0. It gradually worked through a series of full replacements to 6.14. When you were doing that on the old computer, the installation file downloaded and was then executed. Look for the downloaded installation files.

That said, Lightroom Classic is up to 10.3. It may be worth $10 a month if you enjoy photography enough to buy a new computer for it. Four full versions may actually have some significant new, fun features!

You are probably right. But, simply put, material that resides in my computer is always available to me. Material that resides in the cloud is NOT always available to me. BIG difference!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

neilds37 wrote:

You are probably right. But, simply put, material that resides in my computer is always available to me. Material that resides in the cloud is NOT always available to me. BIG difference!

Just to be 100% clear: Nothing about your images under control of LR-Classic reside in the cloud. The software installs locally and your images remain exclusively local.

The cloud aspect is a relatively modest storage space that allows you to share WIP images between your main LRclassic install and your mobile devices such that you can work remotely, say at an image shoot, and transfer that WIP back to your main LRClassic via the cloud, both the image files and the LR editing.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

CHG_CANON wrote:

Just to be 100% clear: Nothing about your images under control of LR-Classic reside in the cloud. The software installs locally and your images remain exclusively local.

The cloud aspect is a relatively modest storage space that allows you to share WIP images between your main LRclassic install and your mobile devices such that you can work remotely, say at an image shoot, and transfer that WIP back to your main LRClassic via the cloud, both the image files and the LR editing.

That does put a different light on things than what I thought I understood about the situation. Thank you for the clarification.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Paul is right. Historically, a long time ago we bought software on disks. Gradually we moved to buying software but downloading the installation file. Lightroom 6.0 through 6.14 was (I think) like that. Even if you bought the disk, you got 6.0 and immediately updated it.

Now, for a variety of reasons, we 'subscribe' to software and it is like renting. The installation files are downloaded to our computer, just the payment scheme is different. Lightroom 6.0 has become Lightroom Classic 10.3. And, like 6.0 it resides on your computer with your photo files.

Always of interest is what happens if you quit paying your monthly rental. With Lightroom Classic, the Develop and Map modules quit. Everything else remains functional. You don't loose your work. You only can't new new work in the Develop module. You can still find pictures, organize pictures, export pictures and print pictures.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

bsprague wrote:

Paul is right. Historically, a long time ago we b... (show quote)

Thank you for the detailed situation, Bill. So, to sum up, the difference between old and new methods is that whereas PSE can be updated to a new version at any time the user feels the purchase price is justified by new features, now the update is mandatory each year whether the user wants it not, and the old version is no longer usable. Oh, wait, didn't I miss that now Photoshop is included and PSE is no longer needed.

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

As I recall, if you had LR 5 and wanted to upgrade to LR 6, that update was not free, nor were major Photoshop CS upgrades. If you subscribe to the Adobe $10/mo Photographers plan, upgrades to LR & PS are at no additional cost. And, they're not mandatory.