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Jul 12, 2021 08:48:55   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Earlier today, I posted about a pressure washer that I saw an auto detailer using online. The more I think about it, the more I think I might "need" one. I'm 77 years old, and I haven't had one yet, so maybe it's time. : ) I can see how it would be good for cleaning inside the cars, cleaning rugs and floors in the house, and whatever else I can think of.

I'm sure that some of you have steam cleaners, so what do you think? I have a carpet shampooer that gets almost all the spots out of the carpet, but a steam cleaner would do better. The detailer uses this model for his job, so it's probably a good one.

https://smile.amazon.com/McCulloch-MC1375-Canister-Steam-System/dp/B00G00BT72/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=MC1375+Canister+Steam+Cleaner&qid=1626007139&sr=8-5
Earlier today, I posted about a pressure washer th... (show quote)


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Jul 12, 2021 09:35:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tramsey wrote:
And how many times have you used that hoist? Was it cost effective.
I bought a power washer 2500 psi to clean my house, paid a hundred dollars plus for it and used it once. Think about for two days and if you still want it on Tuesday go get it, if you must, you must.


Well, I bought it when I was maybe 17, and I brought it with me when I got married and moved five years later. I couldn't count the number of times I've used it. It was a good investment. The same goes for my pressure washer. My son and I use it on our cars, and I use it for the house, the driveway, and anything else that needs some water pressure.

After reading more about that steam cleaner online, I ordered one - arriving Thursday.

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Jul 12, 2021 10:20:01   #
steve Loc: Iowa
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Earlier today, I posted about a pressure washer that I saw an auto detailer using online. The more I think about it, the more I think I might "need" one. I'm 77 years old, and I haven't had one yet, so maybe it's time. : ) I can see how it would be good for cleaning inside the cars, cleaning rugs and floors in the house, and whatever else I can think of.

I'm sure that some of you have steam cleaners, so what do you think? I have a carpet shampooer that gets almost all the spots out of the carpet, but a steam cleaner would do better. The detailer uses this model for his job, so it's probably a good one.

https://smile.amazon.com/McCulloch-MC1375-Canister-Steam-System/dp/B00G00BT72/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=MC1375+Canister+Steam+Cleaner&qid=1626007139&sr=8-5
Earlier today, I posted about a pressure washer th... (show quote)


Simpson 3300. excellent! cars, trucks, driveway, siding. Love it.

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Jul 12, 2021 10:24:12   #
Tigger1 Loc: Surrey, BC Canada
 
joehel2 wrote:
I bought a steam cleaner two weeks ago. The link is below. I bought it primarily for my ceramic tile floors. Some of the mosaic pattern grout lines were long overdue for a deep cleaning. I investigated all brands offered on Amazon and had decided on the Dupray Neat steam cleaner for the steam temperature produced, running time before refill, and the cleaning brushes and attachments included. I pulled the trigger when I saw the price was discounted $20 on Prime Day. It is a serious piece of cleaning equipment, the steam reaches the 285 degree area and is expelled with great pressure when you pull the trigger. You don’t want children or pets present when you are cleaning. I’ve used it to deep clean the aforementioned grout lines, hard surfaces in my bathroom shower, and the glass shower enclosure mineral/soap scum deposits. It made quick work of it all. It is great for normal routine cleaning of hard surface floors; the large pad covers a lot of area quickly, leaving a clean slightly damp surface that drys quickly.

https://www.amazon.com/Dupray-Cleaner-Multipurpose-Steamer-Floors/dp/B07C44DM6D/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1E4ACYXCLXGBI&dchild=1&keywords=neat+steam+cleaner&qid=1626090868&sprefix=Neat+%2Caps%2C196&sr=8-5
I bought a steam cleaner two weeks ago. The link ... (show quote)


Are you sure the "steam reaches 285 degrees area"? Water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level altitude. The only way the cleaner can achieve 285 degrees Fahrenheit is if a pressure chamber is used. However, unless the device is approved for use beyond 212 degrees and atmospheric pressure of 14.6 pounds per square foot (sea level) then the operator of such a specialized device (cleaner) must hold a valid operator's license. Do you have such a license? I suspect the manufacturer of this steam cleaner has played fast and loose with the facts. Just saying.

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Jul 12, 2021 10:29:40   #
Dannj
 
I bought one at Lowe’s, Sunjo?. It’s electric about $125. I’ve used it to clean the siding and deck. Easy to use, 4 or 5 nozzles. So far so good.

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Jul 12, 2021 10:40:02   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm 77 years old, and . . .
77? Aren't you 80 as of April this year. I assumed that the 41 in jerryc41 was for the year of your birth - 1941. But you know what they say about "assume".

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Jul 12, 2021 11:25:54   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Earlier today, I posted about a pressure washer that I saw an auto detailer using online. The more I think about it, the more I think I might "need" one. I'm 77 years old, and I haven't had one yet, so maybe it's time. : ) I can see how it would be good for cleaning inside the cars, cleaning rugs and floors in the house, and whatever else I can think of.

I'm sure that some of you have steam cleaners, so what do you think? I have a carpet shampooer that gets almost all the spots out of the carpet, but a steam cleaner would do better. The detailer uses this model for his job, so it's probably a good one.

https://smile.amazon.com/McCulloch-MC1375-Canister-Steam-System/dp/B00G00BT72/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=MC1375+Canister+Steam+Cleaner&qid=1626007139&sr=8-5
Earlier today, I posted about a b pressure washer... (show quote)

Your post confused me, since you initially talk about a pressure washer and then it appears that you're really talking about a steam cleaner. A steam cleaner can be useful for cleaning the interior of a car, but then you need an extractor to get rid of the water.

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Jul 12, 2021 11:41:45   #
JBRIII
 
There small steam cleaners. I have one called a Willey bug? I believe. Looks like a yellow lady bug. Hand carry size. Great for tuff rug spots, edges near molding, etc. Not really big enough for car engines, not sure it is recommended anyhow, water in places not wanted!

Used an industrial one heated by propane for greasy equipment during college summers, steam shovel, etc.

Pressure cleaners great for outside, but I would think a mess inside a house. The higher the pressure, the higher it can be aimed. I have one around 1700 psi, not good enough to really pressure wash a second story. I placed on a landing inside house to get part of second story, thru window also. The tubing lenght was not the problem, just pushing against too much gravity.

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Jul 12, 2021 11:42:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Tigger1 wrote:
Are you sure the "steam reaches 285 degrees area"? Water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level altitude. The only way the cleaner can achieve 285 degrees Fahrenheit is if a pressure chamber is used. However, unless the device is approved for use beyond 212 degrees and atmospheric pressure of 14.6 pounds per square foot (sea level) then the operator of such a specialized device (cleaner) must hold a valid operator's license. Do you have such a license? I suspect the manufacturer of this steam cleaner has played fast and loose with the facts. Just saying.
Are you sure the "steam reaches 285 degrees a... (show quote)



I'm come across very temperatures for steam in various readings.

"If the pressure is increased, you can get superheated vapor (i.e. superheated steam) that is greater than 100 C. However, this will not happen at atmospheric pressure.

Source https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/why-is-steam-hotter-than-boiling-water.289816/"

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Jul 12, 2021 11:43:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
berchman wrote:
Your post confused me, since you initially talk about a pressure washer and then it appears that you're really talking about a steam cleaner. A steam cleaner can be useful for cleaning the interior of a car, but then you need an extractor to get rid of the water.


Yeah, it confused me, too. "Pressure washer" was a mistake, but it was too late to go back and correct it. The detailer did use a pressure washer, of course, but I was writing about the steam cleaner.

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Jul 12, 2021 11:45:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
77? Aren't you 80 as of April this year. I assumed that the 41 in jerryc41 was for the year of your birth - 1941. But you know what they say about "assume".


That "41" was just a random selection. I was trying to get onto a site, and it kept rejecting my ID choices. I kept adding different numbers to my name until it accepted one. "Jerryc41" was the one it liked, so I use that for everything, although I was born in 1944.

I do hope to be 80 some day. : )

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Jul 12, 2021 12:03:55   #
JBRIII
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm come across very temperatures for steam in various readings.

"If the pressure is increased, you can get superheated vapor (i.e. superheated steam) that is greater than 100 C. However, this will not happen at atmospheric pressure.

Source https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/why-is-steam-hotter-than-boiling-water.289816/"


Can also be less than 100C, I found getting right was easier at 9500 ft in CO. Does mess up cooking however.

The formula for calculating temp press relationship in a closed container is PV = NRT. For a fixed amount of water in a fixed volume becomes P=T, T is in kelvin. Note, this assumes all states are gaseous for conditions. Water expands over a 1000 fold going from liquid to vapor, why a hot water can go ballestic.

In a machine shop (summer job), water got into a roller for a bull dozer, a resurfacing machine welded over the crack and heated the water. Roller (at least 2 ft high, 8" wide) made of 1/4 or 3/8 steel, split open as if a can openner had used. Liffted the machine (a couple tons off the floor). I was 75 feet away, thought an acetylene had exploded, check myself over, not on fire, all limbs intact, so no panic. They had done it for decades, no problem, after that drilled a hole in each one first. I should have remember that before destroying a lab oven at work with a water filled bottle I was testing. Don't try at home unless you want to buy a new oven at the least.

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Jul 12, 2021 12:20:36   #
Tigger1 Loc: Surrey, BC Canada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm come across very temperatures for steam in various readings.

"If the pressure is increased, you can get superheated vapor (i.e. superheated steam) that is greater than 100 C. However, this will not happen at atmospheric pressure.

Source https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/why-is-steam-hotter-than-boiling-water.289816/"


Exactly Jerry! To get "super heated steam" you can only achieve that condition via a pressure vessel apparatus. I'm not conversant with USA regulations concerning super heated steam, but here in Canada high pressure steam is government-controlled and only licensed operations with licensed operators may use high pressure (super heated steam) devices such as boilers etc. For example, boilers used to heat residences are by law equipped with special tamper-proof relief valves so that the boiler cannot be operated above 14.6 pounds per square foot preassure.

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Jul 12, 2021 13:10:57   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Tigger1 wrote:
Are you sure the "steam reaches 285 degrees area"? Water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level altitude. The only way the cleaner can achieve 285 degrees Fahrenheit is if a pressure chamber is used. However, unless the device is approved for use beyond 212 degrees and atmospheric pressure of 14.6 pounds per square foot (sea level) then the operator of such a specialized device (cleaner) must hold a valid operator's license. Do you have such a license? I suspect the manufacturer of this steam cleaner has played fast and loose with the facts. Just saying.
Are you sure the "steam reaches 285 degrees a... (show quote)


I know this about the steam temperature, when the ready light comes on, the cleaning performance is as advertised, BUT, it is so hot and under enough pressure that I don’t want it to be any hotter. It is a device that is going to result in a trip to the burn unit if you are not attentive to detail. Maybe it should require a user certification.

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Jul 12, 2021 13:52:34   #
JBRIII
 
joehel2 wrote:
I know this about the steam temperature, when the ready light comes on, the cleaning performance is as advertised, BUT, it is so hot and under enough pressure that I don’t want it to be any hotter. It is a device that is going to result in a trip to the burn unit if you are not attentive to detail. Maybe it should require a user certification.


Steam has a lot of energy in it which is released on returning to a liquid. I believe it takes more energy to turn 1g of water at 212F to steam, than to convert 1g of ice at 32 F to water at 212F. The conversion is what drives the weather or as you say can burn very quickly.

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