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Jun 11, 2021 07:33:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
It's a shame that we can't discuss many topics here now without them being moved to The Attic. I've probably started posting a dozen topics, only to stop midway because I realized they could cause fights. Having different opinions is fine, but when it gets to the point that we automatically blame the other political party for any problems and start calling each other names, it's no fun anymore.

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Jun 11, 2021 07:53:37   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
Thanks to social media, which has had a more corrosive effect on western civilization than anything before, people end op seeing only things with which they already agree (that's how the algorithms are set up) which convinces them more thoroughly they are right and everyone who disagrees is wrong.

A very interesting movie on Netflix which clearly explains what happens "behind the screen" is "The Social Dilemma" on Netflix - it may make you want to drop off FB et al.

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Jun 11, 2021 07:56:26   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Yep
Divide us for sure

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Jun 11, 2021 08:00:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Toment wrote:
Yep
Divide us for sure


And people come out of the woodwork to voice their "opinion".

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Jun 11, 2021 08:01:00   #
b top gun
 
Facebook is its own kind of p******c!

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Jun 11, 2021 08:06:59   #
Lonnie77 Loc: Kennedale, Texas
 
If you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything?

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Jun 11, 2021 08:10:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
b top gun wrote:
Facebook is its own kind of p******c!



Yes, there are some really nasty people out there!

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Jun 11, 2021 08:52:10   #
ejones0310 Loc: Tulsa, OK
 
I don’t belong to Facebook, instachat, tick tick or any of those. I don’t even belong to LinkedIn. Ugly Hedgehog and Badger & Blade are my social media.

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Jun 11, 2021 08:57:34   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's a shame that we can't discuss many topics here now without them being moved to The Attic. I've probably started posting a dozen topics, only to stop midway because I realized they could cause fights. Having different opinions is fine, but when it gets to the point that we automatically blame the other political party for any problems and start calling each other names, it's no fun anymore.


I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based (to the best of mere mortals ability) lively, respectful debate on almost any subject, anytime....sadly the art of "debating" has fallen victim to the "rant", h**e projection, "trollism", "my way or the highway" philosophy, the inability of some to separate intelligent discussion from the "I'm always right, you're always wrong" purely d******e, and often completely baseless spread of falsehoods and inaccurate information.

Have always felt that even when interacting with others from behind the keyboard, one should offer the same respect and engagement they would when speaking to another in person, even if or as polar opposites. I know I have walked away from conversations here because it became clear that the intent was to disrespect, build h**e snowballs, project harmful statements for some purpose other than the point of the discussion.

If one cannot provide some form of fact based/historical based informational data and/or linkages to information on a subject, then it should be addressed as "opinion" or "point of view", and even those are or should be allowed, as long as the verbal abuse is left out of the conversation.

Peace.

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Jun 11, 2021 09:02:59   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
olemikey wrote:
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based (to the best of mere mortals ability) lively, respectful debate on almost any subject, anytime....sadly the art of "debating" has fallen victim to the "rant", h**e projection, "trollism", "my way or the highway" philosophy, the inability of some to separate intelligent discussion from the "I'm always right, you're always wrong" purely d******e, and often completely baseless spread of falsehoods and inaccurate information.

Have always felt that even when interacting with others from behind the keyboard, one should offer the same respect and engagement they would when speaking to another in person, even if or as polar opposites. I know I have walked away from conversations here because it became clear that the intent was to disrespect, build h**e snowballs, project harmful statements for some purpose other than the point of the discussion.

If one cannot provide some form of fact based/historical based informational data and/or linkages to information on a subject, then it should be addressed as "opinion" or "point of view", and even those are or should be allowed, as long as the verbal abuse is left out of the conversation.

Peace.
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based ... (show quote)


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Jun 11, 2021 09:44:23   #
MrBossHK Loc: The West Valley of Phoenix metro area
 
f8lee wrote:
Thanks to social media, which has had a more corrosive effect on western civilization than anything before, people end op seeing only things with which they already agree (that's how the algorithms are set up) which convinces them more thoroughly they are right and everyone who disagrees is wrong.

A very interesting movie on Netflix which clearly explains what happens "behind the screen" is "The Social Dilemma" on Netflix - it may make you want to drop off FB et al.


Very well stated.

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Jun 11, 2021 09:54:03   #
MrBossHK Loc: The West Valley of Phoenix metro area
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's a shame that we can't discuss many topics here now without them being moved to The Attic. I've probably started posting a dozen topics, only to stop midway because I realized they could cause fights. Having different opinions is fine, but when it gets to the point that we automatically blame the other political party for any problems and start calling each other names, it's no fun anymore.


"Social Media" is anything BUT "social". When it comes to participating in "Social Media", I adopted the tactic of "Social Distancing" long before the term "Social Distancing" became "cool". Life is great without joining in that foodfight.

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Jun 11, 2021 09:59:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
olemikey wrote:
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based (to the best of mere mortals ability) lively, respectful debate on almost any subject, anytime....sadly the art of "debating" has fallen victim to the "rant", h**e projection, "trollism", "my way or the highway" philosophy, the inability of some to separate intelligent discussion from the "I'm always right, you're always wrong" purely d******e, and often completely baseless spread of falsehoods and inaccurate information.

Have always felt that even when interacting with others from behind the keyboard, one should offer the same respect and engagement they would when speaking to another in person, even if or as polar opposites. I know I have walked away from conversations here because it became clear that the intent was to disrespect, build h**e snowballs, project harmful statements for some purpose other than the point of the discussion.

If one cannot provide some form of fact based/historical based informational data and/or linkages to information on a subject, then it should be addressed as "opinion" or "point of view", and even those are or should be allowed, as long as the verbal abuse is left out of the conversation.

Peace.
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based ... (show quote)



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Jun 11, 2021 17:02:43   #
RiJoRi Loc: Sandy Ridge, NC
 
olemikey wrote:
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based (to the best of mere mortals ability) lively, respectful debate on almost any subject, anytime....sadly the art of "debating" has fallen victim to the "rant", h**e projection, "trollism", "my way or the highway" philosophy, the inability of some to separate intelligent discussion from the "I'm always right, you're always wrong" purely d******e, and often completely baseless spread of falsehoods and inaccurate information.

Have always felt that even when interacting with others from behind the keyboard, one should offer the same respect and engagement they would when speaking to another in person, even if or as polar opposites. I know I have walked away from conversations here because it became clear that the intent was to disrespect, build h**e snowballs, project harmful statements for some purpose other than the point of the discussion.

If one cannot provide some form of fact based/historical based informational data and/or linkages to information on a subject, then it should be addressed as "opinion" or "point of view", and even those are or should be allowed, as long as the verbal abuse is left out of the conversation.

Peace.
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based ... (show quote)


Amen!
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Jun 12, 2021 23:45:39   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
olemikey wrote:
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based (to the best of mere mortals ability) lively, respectful debate on almost any subject, anytime....sadly the art of "debating" has fallen victim to the "rant", h**e projection, "trollism", "my way or the highway" philosophy, the inability of some to separate intelligent discussion from the "I'm always right, you're always wrong" purely d******e, and often completely baseless spread of falsehoods and inaccurate information.

Have always felt that even when interacting with others from behind the keyboard, one should offer the same respect and engagement they would when speaking to another in person, even if or as polar opposites. I know I have walked away from conversations here because it became clear that the intent was to disrespect, build h**e snowballs, project harmful statements for some purpose other than the point of the discussion.

If one cannot provide some form of fact based/historical based informational data and/or linkages to information on a subject, then it should be addressed as "opinion" or "point of view", and even those are or should be allowed, as long as the verbal abuse is left out of the conversation.

Peace.
I've always loved a good, intelligent, fact based ... (show quote)



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