ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

For some, the Bible has all the answers. It guides them. It is timeless and unchanging. It provides stability and constancy in their life.

Unfortunately, for some, Science does not provide those assurances because new data may create alternative explanations that more accurately predict phenomena. This inconsistency is intolerable to those wishing to have answers that don't change.

T. Edison paraphrased~ "I found 10,000 ways how to not make a lightbulb."

Patience and Persistence are qualities of Scientists. Change is frequent in Science.

"Keeping the Faith!" is not a scientific strategy.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

Honest thoughts ---
Finding errors & creating change gets you a Nobel

Thanks, for posting

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Religion has nothing to do with science. Most of them preach things that are provably not true. Science can proove all the religions mysterys. Religious myths not religions teachings. The Greek and Roman and Egyptian rmyths were religions. The only difference between those ancients myths and todays religions is that those were their myths and our religions are OUR myths

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Your post rather surprises me, but not in a bad way.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Your 3rd sentence isn’t correct. In any case Science actually works by disproving (falsifying) hypothesis. It cannot prove anything. It simply delivers the best unfalsified theory at the time,

Rose42

The bible has answers on how to live a Christian life. Its a spiritual guide. It doesn’t have the answers for everything else.

Many scientists are Christians. IIRC the one who developed the MRI is a Christian

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

That one way to look at things/ But there are some things that science can prove. I can prove that someone who has ventricular fibrillation with Torsade de pointe that does not "break " will die.. OR that someone who appears to have died (Jesus) may actually be alive, and fully recover.

mikee

mikee

Ummm...which iteration?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I tend to lean toward Stephen Hawking's way of thinking...

“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”

“One can’t prove that God doesn’t exist. But science makes God unnecessary. … The laws of physics can explain the universe without the need for a creator.”

Rose42

The law of physics can’t explain it. It takes a much greater leap of faith to think there was spontaneous creation without God.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

The ONLY way that I can rationalize there being a God is that He designed matter and energy, and the fundamental laws by which these behave. I analogize it to making Lego pieces; the pieces can be assembled in almost limitless ways, but the "creator" of Lego has no idea of what the "designers/users" will ultimately create.

IF there is a God of this sort, then He is letting "the universe unfold as it should" according to His laws. But He is NOT watching us (well, maybe He is observing His experimental universe as it expands) and protecting us (there is simply NO justifiable reason for all the senseless violence and human suffering in this world); he is NOT meddling in our affairs (I don't believe in divine intervention); and there is no such thing as a soul or an afterlife (resurrection of a rotted body???).

All of the unexplainable phenomena become more explainable as time goes by and humans gain a better understanding of science. Eventually, as Hawking says, we will not need faith to reconcile inconsistencies that are currently "beyond human understanding and comprehension."

And I cannot rationalize why a being of such great power needs lowly humans to glorify, thank and praise Him; and if you don't you go to hell. If He is that way, then He probably learned it from Trump!

anotherview Loc: California

Faith versus reason has existed as a controversy for a long time. One may have faith while seeing value in reason and its child the scientific method.

Rose42

Don’t bring Trump into it. That’s juvenile.

If one looks at the complexities of life and the interdependencies of different species and plants, it becomes more plain that science has no idea - Hawking sure didn’t.

neillaubenthal

Incorrect logic. If there was ever a time when nothing existed…there would have been no gravity (or anything else)…because nothing would have existed. Therefore…there would be no possibility for anything to ever exist because some ant come from nothing.

So..if things exist now…something has to have always existed. If one believes that it is a supreme spiritual being…you are what is known as a theist…if you believe that the always in existence thing was matter or material…then you are an a-theist…or atheist. Feds people that claim to be atheists have really thought this through…what they actually believe…at least most of the ones I’ve talked to…is agnostic.