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Jun 10, 2021 10:37:09   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Change can occur without breaking any rules, especially if they are no rules the break. Even if there were rules, there is no one to enforce them. Good photographers know the basics and go with their imagination. There is nothing to stop, you or confine you to any sameness- you are only governed by the limits of your imagination. If you do something that contravenes some tradition- so waht- wh cares. If the resulting image is impactful and/or tells a story or is exemplary of your self-expression- so be it. Others will like it, relate to it- or not!

These arguments are fruitless and border on silly. They don't really argue on points of composition or exact technicalities- they become a battle of entomology and ego.

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Jun 10, 2021 10:41:41   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The rules are simple. Why get disqualified for breaking them?

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Jun 10, 2021 12:03:16   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Wallen wrote:
Yes getting the shot is of utmost importance.
When I shoot wildlife, I still take the composition in consideration and shoot to allow for adjusting the composition when I crop or edit the photos.

The same also applies to other action shots.


Absolutely. I try to make adjustments, cropping and such, in PS to turn the picture into a photograph. Sometimes I succeed other times I end up with an 8x10 with the subject filling the frame.

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Jun 10, 2021 12:08:18   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I work in a studio- it's my main job right now. In the past, however, I have had to work in many circumstances and conditions where extremely fast, almost split-second shooting was required. I worked for a big-city daily newspaper- lots of fast action sports- motorsports, HHL Hockey, baseball, football Rugby Wrestelg and boxing not to meant riots, protests, street violence, and many events were human expressions fleeting as well. I also had some rather grizzly experience of shooting in an anctve war zone. So, I had to get the shoots- I agree with you! My point, however, is that fast reactions and good composition are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Of course, there are times when you just shoot without delay and ask yourself questions later. I have had to shoot over mobs and obstacles holding the camera over my head with no access to the viewfinder. In many cases, with experience you get to be able to anticipate actions of athletes, rioting vandals, wild animals, birds, people dancing, whatever and you automatically consider composition by leave space in the right places, etc. If you are a "hunter" you get to know the habits of what you are hunting.

Nowadays, I do spend time in a nice air-conditioned studio shooting static objects and professional models. I still have to do other assignments that require nimble shooting. I don't always get it perfect the first time out but once I get the rhythm, my composition improves.
I work in a studio- it's my main job right now. In... (show quote)


I was just trying to point out that "Getting the shot" is the important thing. Anything else you can do to improve the shot, in camera or with post processing is icing on the cake.

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Jun 10, 2021 12:14:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I was just trying to point out that "Getting the shot" is the important thing. Anything else you can do to improve the shot, in camera or with post processing is icing on the cake.


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Jun 10, 2021 14:18:22   #
josquin1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The rules are simple. Why get disqualified for breaking them?


Getting disqualified could be an honor.

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Jun 10, 2021 14:33:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Life is like photography, if you don't read the manual, you don't know the rules.

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Jun 10, 2021 16:52:13   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Life is like photography, if you don't read the manual, you don't know the rules.


That explains a lot.

We all know how frequently the manual gets picked up, let alone read.

It’s 5PM. Do you know where your manual is?

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Jun 10, 2021 16:56:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
That explains a lot.

We all know how frequently the manual gets picked up, let alone read.

It’s 5PM. Do you know where your manual is?


If already downloaded as a PDF, copies exist on the hard drives of my multiple computers. If not downloaded, available from the website of the vendor, to be downloaded and saved.

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Jun 10, 2021 18:54:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
That explains a lot.

We all know how frequently the manual gets picked up, let alone read.

It’s 5PM. Do you know where your manual is?

What's a manual?

The American way: When all else fails, read the manual.

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Jun 10, 2021 18:57:28   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Sometimes the rules only seem silly because you're not the photographer you think you are.

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Jun 11, 2021 04:59:39   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If already downloaded as a PDF, copies exist on the hard drives of my multiple computers. If not downloaded, available from the website of the vendor, to be downloaded and saved.


I keep the printed copies with my pile of cameras and lenses but I have the PDFs on my phone so they are available out in the field.

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