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May 27, 2021 20:26:37   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
JD750 wrote:
You live where? In SanFran or SoCal?

If so, do you read the newspapers? Do you visit read neighborhood social media site? Do you drive around and look out the window of the car? Have you been downtown lately? Have you stepped over people sleeping on the sidewalk? Do you see the homeless camps in public spaces? Do you smell the stink? Or do you live in a gated community surrounded by private security and receive all your groceries and goods while safely inside the guarded gates?

I live in SoCal and there is a huge problem here.

And it’s about to get worse as the LA DA has all but stopped prosecuting crimes and is working to free 10s of thousands of prisoners many are violent offenders.
You live where? In SanFran or SoCal? br br If s... (show quote)


I live in San Francisco, and I pay attention to the news on a daily basis. I live in a neighborhood with a significant percentage of Asian Americans, not a gated community.

I re-emphasize that many of the negative comments come from people with no direct experience at all, or not for many years.

So, if you want to make credible comments, do some real research.

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May 27, 2021 23:54:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Peterff wrote:
I live in San Francisco, and I pay attention to the news on a daily basis. I live in a neighborhood with a significant percentage of Asian Americans, not a gated community.

I re-emphasize that many of the negative comments come from people with no direct experience at all, or not for many years.

So, if you want to make credible comments, do some real research.


I'm living it. I think that qualifies.

Glad you are not having those problems.

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May 28, 2021 12:37:41   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
JD750 wrote:
I'm living it. I think that qualifies.

Glad you are not having those problems.


I’m sorry you are experiencing those problems, Socal is not San Francisco. Where abouts are you?

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May 29, 2021 23:30:10   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
Headed for the attic: California resident here. Prop 47 reduced the penalties for many crimes and re-defined what violent crimes meant in some sexual assaults. With reduced bail, and in some cases, no bail, perpetrators are released, quite literally, before the cops finish the reports. Residential burglars are not seeing significant jail time. An associate of mine from my LE days told me that there are crews who are doing burglaries while people are home, knowing that most of the victims will take refuge in their bedrooms while they pilfer the house.

There are now attempts to decriminalize other crimes as well. The DA in Los Angeles, former DA in SF, no longer seeks gang enhancements or gun enhancements. Just yesterday, there was a report of a drug stores closing stores in the SF area due to organized theft rings. Sadly, Cal was a very safe place not long ago. I'm not all that knowledgeable about photography, but was in law enforcement for 35 years. Murders are up double digits in Los Angeles, and I imagine in SF as well. We are going back to the softer sentencing on crimes that was prevalent in the 1970s, and the results will be the change...increased crime.

For those of you who may be inclined to use some sort of deadly force to protect your goods, this was not a robbery. It was a grand theft. Robbery is taking something from someone by use of force or fear....my quick read was that this was a "snatch and grab." Protect yourself from imminent serious bodily injury, but do not use deadly force to protect your gear...

Sad state of affairs.
Headed for the attic: California resident here. ... (show quote)


Just stay out of that cesspool state. They will wise up when the tourists don’t come and people leave. No money no state.

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May 29, 2021 23:56:27   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ronpier wrote:
Just stay out of that cesspool state. They will wise up when the tourists don’t come and people leave. No money no state.


And your comment is worth what?

The cesspool that you’re swimming in?

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May 30, 2021 00:12:54   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Peterff wrote:
And your comment is worth what?

The cesspool that you’re swimming in?


Just sayin what the rest of the country is thinking including friends and family members who have left.

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May 30, 2021 00:27:38   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
ronpier wrote:
Just stay out of that cesspool state. They will wise up when the tourists don’t come and people leave. No money no state.


Harder to do for those that live there. It’s a beautiful state much to offer but there are serious problems with crime and taxes both going up. Big corporations are leaving too. Ca population declined last year for the first time.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/california/california-population-declines/509-bb2f6ef1-29c0-465d-8866-df648746278e

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May 30, 2021 21:29:40   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ronpier wrote:
Just sayin what the rest of the country is thinking including friends and family members who have left.


It’s easy to repeat things, especially if you have no knowledge or sense.

At least I have direct local experience, and I pay attention. Things are far from perfect but the issues are being addressed steadily.

I’d rather live here in SF than other places I have mentioned. Yes there is a homeless problem but we have initiatives to address (some) of that.

One of the reasons that we have a homeless problem is that our climate is fairly benign. If I had to be homeless I’d rather be here than in New York or Detroit and so on.

Perhaps we are better off without your friends and family.

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May 31, 2021 00:20:41   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Peterff wrote:
It’s easy to repeat things, especially if you have no knowledge or sense.

At least I have direct local experience, and I pay attention. Things are far from perfect but the issues are being addressed steadily.

I’d rather live here in SF than other places I have mentioned. Yes there is a homeless problem but we have initiatives to address (some) of that.

One of the reasons that we have a homeless problem is that our climate is fairly benign. If I had to be homeless I’d rather be here than in New York or Detroit and so on.

Perhaps we are better off without your friends and family.
It’s easy to repeat things, especially if you have... (show quote)

Been there myself many times since 1978. This is not the same state as back then. Yes we are also better off not being in this sad state of affairs.

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May 31, 2021 16:04:02   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ronpier wrote:
Been there myself many times since 1978. This is not the same state as back then. Yes we are also better off not being in this sad state of affairs.


I wouldn’t describe SF as being a sad state of affairs. Perhaps it is where you go or how you present yourself that leads to your bad experiences.

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May 31, 2021 21:51:36   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Peterff wrote:
I wouldn’t describe SF as being a sad state of affairs. Perhaps it is where you go or how you present yourself that leads to your bad experiences.


Pretty soon you will be comparing SF to Disneyland.

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Jun 1, 2021 15:46:59   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ronpier wrote:
Pretty soon you will be comparing SF to Disneyland.

I don’t need to compare SF to anywhere since I have accurate local knowledge and real life experience.

For one, I wouldn’t want to live in Disneyland, nor do I wear a Mickey Mouse watch. Although I’m wondering if you do!

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Jun 1, 2021 19:48:28   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
Peterff wrote:
I don’t need to compare SF to anywhere since I have accurate local knowledge and real life experience.

For one, I wouldn’t want to live in Disneyland, nor do I wear a Mickey Mouse watch. Although I’m wondering if you do!


Peterff Let’s stop this back and forth. We both have our opinions and I don’t think we’re going to change our opinions. Let’s call a truce and talk about Photography!! Good shooting!!

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Jun 1, 2021 20:37:29   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ronpier wrote:
Peterff Let’s stop this back and forth. We both have our opinions and I don’t think we’re going to change our opinions. Let’s call a truce and talk about Photography!! Good shooting!!


Good idea!

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