Sony RX100vii
May 18, 2021 09:00:13 #
Not happy with results. In general, washed-out skies, colors just not true. For example, shots yesterday while kayaking under a blue sky turned out as shown. Aperture Mode F8, Auto WB, Auto ISO, Exposure 0.0. Contrasted with photos taken with the iPhone 12 Pro Max, which produced awesome color and clarity. This has been a problem I have had with this camera since purchasing it 6 months ago. To emphasize, the sky was, in reality, blue! Ideas??
May 18, 2021 09:17:45 #
BurghByrd
Loc: Pittsburgh
If you upload the image file some here could use the EXIF data to determine the settings used to capture the image and perhaps suggest a solution.
May 18, 2021 09:20:31 #
The color of the sky depends on the location of the sun. Face one direction, and the sky will be deep blue. Turn a few degrees, and it will be washed out. Also, the camera doesn't always see the same color that we do. Did you do any processing this this picture?
May 18, 2021 09:37:24 #
Which mode are you shooting in? How is it set up? Sony's have extensive menu set ups, including creative style. If you have spot metering set up and the spot was in the tree line, would explain the over exposure. The Sony is a real camera and needs to be set up, it is not a phone camera with everything pre set for intense color and a lens with extensive depth of field.
May 18, 2021 09:37:55 #
You didn't show both images. But, welcome to the new world of "computational" photography.
The iphone can "compute" what it thinks you want it to look like where a camera (any camera) can't. A similar argument goes on between the proponents of "straight out of camera" images and those that believe what comes out of the camera is raw material for post processing. Similar battles took place with film. There were those that thought Kodachrome slides were superior. Others shot negative color film so they could post process their prints.
The iphone can "compute" what it thinks you want it to look like where a camera (any camera) can't. A similar argument goes on between the proponents of "straight out of camera" images and those that believe what comes out of the camera is raw material for post processing. Similar battles took place with film. There were those that thought Kodachrome slides were superior. Others shot negative color film so they could post process their prints.
May 18, 2021 10:21:42 #
wmurnahan wrote:
Which mode are you shooting in? How is it set up? Sony's have extensive menu set ups, including creative style. If you have spot metering set up and the spot was in the tree line, would explain the over exposure. The Sony is a real camera and needs to be set up, it is not a phone camera with everything pre set for intense color and a lens with extensive depth of field.
I indicated Aperture Mode. Metering Mode was Multi.
May 18, 2021 10:22:39 #
jerryc41 wrote:
The color of the sky depends on the location of the sun. Face one direction, and the sky will be deep blue. Turn a few degrees, and it will be washed out. Also, the camera doesn't always see the same color that we do. Did you do any processing this this picture?
I tried to process to bring out some blue in the sky (Luminar) but was unable to bring out any color.
May 18, 2021 10:25:37 #
bsprague wrote:
You didn't show both images. But, welcome to the... (show quote)
iPhone photo showing the sky, shot in the same direction.
May 18, 2021 11:40:17 #
Marlz wrote:
iPhone photo showing the sky, shot in the same direction.
Big dif in exposure. No detail in the woods, no subjects up close, like in the kayak, that the camera is trying to get detail in the face. Not sure if the phone cameras come with polarized lenses, but a polarized filter would of fixed the first photo.
May 18, 2021 12:04:37 #
The first photo was taken with the Sony. I cannot attach a polarized filter to it. I'm not worried about detail. I just want to be able to get the blue of the sky out of the Sony, not always just washed out shots.
May 18, 2021 12:25:03 #
Marlz wrote:
The first photo was taken with the Sony. I cannot attach a polarized filter to it. I'm not worried about detail. I just want to be able to get the blue of the sky out of the Sony, not always just washed out shots.
Auto bracket? HDR? Your Sony has a lot of options that might do much better?
May 18, 2021 15:08:28 #
REPEAT: Repost the photo making sure to click "Store Original" before "Add Attachment". Also, make sure the data is there before posting. Some editing apps delete it. That way we can see the Exif Data and can better understand the camera settings.
May 18, 2021 15:36:56 #
I still think a big part of the difference you are seeing is that the Sony exposed for the persons face or the under growth in the trees, which are in the shadow. In other word is exposed for the shadow. The phone exposed for the sky, the under growth is almost black in those shots and there is no face in a shadow.
May 18, 2021 15:40:33 #
store the original file and unedited file if you want to receive useful and actionable help.
May 18, 2021 18:06:25 #
You do not indicate if you show raw or JPEG with the Sony; my guess would be the latter. As Bill (@bsprague) pointed out, the iPhone's computer does (or at least, can do) a lot of massaging to the original raw file, while the Sony is not designed to take that control out of the hand of the shooter. By the bye, you can in fact attach a filter to the Sony with an adapter from Lensmate:
https://lensmateonline.com/products/sony-rx100-vi-quick-change-filter-adapter-kit-52mm-by-lensmate-coming-soon?variant=12499894108203
But given the time saved with the iPhon'e "brains" perhaps the Sony just isn't for you nowadays...
https://lensmateonline.com/products/sony-rx100-vi-quick-change-filter-adapter-kit-52mm-by-lensmate-coming-soon?variant=12499894108203
But given the time saved with the iPhon'e "brains" perhaps the Sony just isn't for you nowadays...
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