DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
DennyT wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-shooting-protests-curfew-013954896.html
Somebody with knowledge of the type of pistol police carry and the safety of that type.
Is safety engaged when gun is holstered.
Or how can officer mistake. Gun fir tazer if you have have to take Gun safety off. Before firing.
Thanks
Fearful poorly trained cops. Funnily enough it works in court for a get-out-of-jail-free card.
"I feared for my life and I'm poorly trained judge." One cop defendant after the other, for longer than anyone can remember.
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
DennyT wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-shooting-protests-curfew-013954896.html
Somebody with knowledge of the type of pistol police carry and the safety of that type.
Is safety engaged when gun is holstered.
Or how can officer mistake. Gun fir tazer if you have have to take Gun safety off. Before firing.
Thanks
She should have known ex-officers take
https://youtu.be/3SKivqzLois
DennyT wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-shooting-protests-curfew-013954896.html
Somebody with knowledge of the type of pistol police carry and the safety of that type.
Is safety engaged when gun is holstered.
Or how can officer mistake. Gun fir tazer if you have have to take Gun safety off. Before firing.
Thanks
As can be seen in video, that officer's weapon was a Glock. It has a trigger safety. No separate action is needed.
https://us.glock.com/en/LEARN/GLOCK-Pistols/Safe-Action-System
The movie, "A Clockwork Orange," is a movie that is at times a ballet-like in one sense, and a story about society and law enforcement in another. A $4 rent on Amazon.
DennyT
Loc: Central Missouri woods
Still cast great doubt on the “ I thought I had my taser” excuse if it takes a concious effort to take the safety off.
In the end “ negligent homicide “ guilty or manslaughter”
DennyT wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-shooting-protests-curfew-013954896.html
Somebody with knowledge of the type of pistol police carry and the safety of that type.
Is safety engaged when gun is holstered.
Or how can officer mistake. Gun fir tazer if you have have to take Gun safety off. Before firing.
Thanks
It depends on the individual Department and also which handguns they deploy. I know that a great many departments use Glocks, and the standard Glock does not have a "Manual" safety, they instead rely on multiple passive safeties. However, some departments require them and do deploy Glocks which have manual safeties installed.
How one can mistake a tazer with their handgun, especially a veteran officer who would have been trained, tested, practiced, and certified multiple times on both platforms? For me, it's hard to believe, but in a stressful situation, who knows.
WNYShooter wrote:
It depends on the individual Department and also which handguns they deploy. I know that a great many departments use Glocks, and the standard Glock does not have a "Manual" safety, they instead rely on multiple passive safeties. However, some departments require them and do deploy Glocks which have manual safeties installed.
How one can mistake a tazer with their handgun, especially a veteran officer who would have been trained, tested, practiced, and certified multiple times on both platforms? For me, it's hard to believe, but in a stressful situation, who knows.
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It could likely be poor training is the reason. No excuses. Its not
simply training but how one trains.
There is no safety that has to be disengaged on a double action semi-automatic police pistol. The gun will not fire the first round unless you exert 8 pounds of pull on the trigger.
joehel2 wrote:
There is no safety that has to be disengaged on a double action semi-automatic police pistol. The gun will not fire the first round unless you exert 8 pounds of pull on the trigger.
I once owned a P38. I'm not sure if "police" eliminates it from the discussion, but it is a double action semi auto. It definitely has a safety. I remember because if it was cocked and you put the safety on, the hammer went home, which I found a bit unnerving. I have no input on the Glock, as I'm unfamiliar with it.
DennyT wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-shooting-protests-curfew-013954896.html
Somebody with knowledge of the type of pistol police carry and the safety of that type.
Is safety engaged when gun is holstered.
Or how can officer mistake. Gun fir tazer if you have have to take Gun safety off. Before firing.
Thanks
As a retired officer, I cannot really understand how one could confuse the handgun with the taser,
The taser is carried on the opposite side of the handgun. However, she was yelling "Taser,
Taser Taser" before firing. She must have been terrified is all I can think of.
I never carried a Glock when working and didn't want to. Back then we had heard horror stories of accidental
firings with the Glock and lots of officers considered it unsafe. Apparently, the thinking has changed now
Seems most departments are issuing the Glock. My old agency is using them now. I always wanted a weapon with manual safety and Glock does not have one. A manual safety can easily be disengaged as the weapon is drawn with proper training. Actually, if I am not mistaken, the US military is issuing the Glock.
Tasers should not be painted black. They should be yellow or orange.
CPR
Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
Officer panicked and made a mistake. Only poor training can account for this mistake.
CPR wrote:
Officer panicked and made a mistake. Only poor training can account for this mistake.
Maybe we should defund the police more? It seems to be working in MN.
DennyT wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-shooting-protests-curfew-013954896.html
Somebody with knowledge of the type of pistol police carry and the safety of that type.
Is safety engaged when gun is holstered.
Or how can officer mistake. Gun fir tazer if you have have to take Gun safety off. Before firing.
Thanks
I'm guessing that most cops do not have safety on when the gun is holstered…one less thing to worry about if you need to use it.
Regardless…a cop should know the difference in feel between their taser and their firearm…and many departments require carrying them on different sides to help eliminate confusion. This is the second cop in a short while who made the same mistake…that goes to a failure in training and policy and leadership…leading to cops that aren't competent.
Just like every other job…there are competent and less competent and even incompetent cops and there are 'bad cops' and 'good cops'.
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