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Apr 11, 2021 07:04:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I was at a friend's house the other day, and a tree was full of birds, so I asked him, "What kind of bird is that? It's black with red on its wings."

He said, "Red winged blackbird."

How do bird namers come up with such clever, imaginative names?!

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Apr 11, 2021 07:21:25   #
Julian Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Simple, common sense: 'bird namers' as you call them, are ordinary people calling them out as they see them. To avoid confusion, the Red-winged Blackbird's precise, scientific name is Agelaius phoeniceus.

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Apr 11, 2021 07:29:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Julian wrote:
Simple, common sense: 'bird namers' as you call them, are ordinary people calling them out as they see them. To avoid confusion, the Red-winged Blackbird's precise, scientific name is Agelaius phoeniceus.


Thanks. I prefer the Latin name - more impressive.

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Apr 11, 2021 07:44:25   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
Google up Redwing Blackbird. That is the correct layman’s name for this bird ( in English) would you prefer blue wing blackbird? Naming these birds was done centuries ago by naturalists and the names tended to be straight forward and descriptive( not always ) .

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Apr 11, 2021 17:08:18   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Thanks. I prefer the Latin name - more impressive.


But for those of use who don't "speak Latin", the plain English word is MUCH more descriptive!

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Apr 12, 2021 05:44:17   #
splinter01 Loc: bognor regis uk
 
In England you can find the black redstart...

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Apr 12, 2021 06:28:55   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Thanks. I prefer the Latin name - more impressive.


You'll be tested on it next week Jerry, just to see if you remember it. :)

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Apr 12, 2021 08:25:03   #
RustyM
 
The official bird names—common and scientific—are determined by the American Ornithological Society and its international counterpart. The common names are not always obvious. For example, the Red-bellied Woodpecker has a bright red cap and only a blush of red on its belly. But, Red-headed and Red-capped are applied to other species of woodpeckers.

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Apr 12, 2021 08:52:31   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Doc Mck wrote:
Google up Redwing Blackbird. That is the correct layman’s name for this bird ( in English) would you prefer blue wing blackbird?...


In the '40s my father had an Australian friend. He had bright red hair, so naturally they called him "Blue".

But it's possible to call the bird a "Black Bodied Redbird".

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Apr 12, 2021 10:48:49   #
Bull Schmidt
 
my daughter sent me a picture of a bird looked like a cardinal but had a little red but mostly brown feathers and l little white mixed in. told her it was a female which change in the summer..natures camo

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Apr 12, 2021 16:33:08   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
Doc Mck wrote:
Google up Redwing Blackbird. That is the correct layman’s name for this bird ( in English) would you prefer blue wing blackbird? Naming these birds was done centuries ago by naturalists and the names tended to be straight forward and descriptive( not always ) .


Or the Redtailed Hawk

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Apr 12, 2021 17:54:01   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
But for those of use who don't "speak Latin", the plain English word is MUCH more descriptive!


qui Latine locuti sunt non in Eruditionis Habes

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Apr 12, 2021 18:05:14   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
fetzler wrote:
qui Latine locuti sunt non in Eruditionis Habes


I took 3 years of latin in High School but that was 68 years ago and since it's not something I use every day (or even every decade) I can't remember most of it.

What sticks in my mind are things like "Illegitimi non carborundum".

And when I DuckDucked "Agelaius phoeniceus" abcbirds.org said the name was of Greek derivation, not latin.

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Apr 12, 2021 18:49:45   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I took 3 years of latin in High School but that was 68 years ago and since it's not something I use every day (or even every decade) I can't remember most of it.

What sticks in my mind are things like "Illegitimi non carborundum".


Indeed the Bas***ds never wear me down.

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Apr 12, 2021 21:25:53   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I took 3 years of latin in High School but that was 68 years ago and since it's not something I use every day (or even every decade) I can't remember most of it.

What sticks in my mind are things like "Illegitimi non carborundum".

And when I DuckDucked "Agelaius phoeniceus" abcbirds.org said the name was of Greek derivation, not latin.


If you like Greek better then

Όσοι δεν μιλούν ελληνικά είναι κακώς μορφωμένοι

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