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Apr 11, 2021 18:19:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
olddutch wrote:
Apple advertised their fusion hard drive which is small segment of it was solid-state drive and the rest in normal drive and for speed use the solid-state drive for booting up the computer which shorten the boot time and I don’t know if that would work on a PC or not


The Fusion Drive was TWO drives — a large conventional HDD and a smaller SSD. Through clever virtualization, they were formatted to appear as one drive. The SSD was for the OS and apps, and the HDD was for data.

Personally, I’d rather just have a pair of separate drives... easier to manage, much like a C:\ and D:\ in Windows.

In 2019, my 1TB HDD was nearly full. So, I put a 2TB SSD and 16GB RAM in my old iMac. (OWC sells a kit to enable brave DIYers to do that.) it made a HUGE difference. I/O is always the biggest bottleneck in most workflows, so removing the HDD and installing an SSD made enormous sense.

Today, I’d just buy an M1 Mac Mini and be happy as a kid in a toy store. More $$$, but worth it.

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Apr 11, 2021 18:36:10   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
nobler wrote:
I've been messing with computers since 1972 (that was a PDP11). One thing I'm sure of, you should never "upgrade" the OS on a computer that is working and useful...

Never say never.

I have a desktop computer from about 2015. It ran Win7 until about a year and a half ago. It was starting to show problems, but it was still working and useful. I could have continued with Win7 but I decided to finally get with the times. I upgraded my Win7 to Win10. The upgrade went smoothly and I was up and running in a few hours. There were a few things that I had to learn anew but they were minor things and presented no problems.

nobler wrote:
...If you want to mess with the latest mess from Microsoft, get that OS on a new computer. That way, you'll still have the old computer to fall back on, and you can ease into the new one at your own pace...

There is something to be said for that approach but not everyone wants to buy a new computer just because a new OS is needed (or wanted).

nobler wrote:
That said, I've had a state of the art "new'" Win10Pro PC ... and I still f*cking hate the poor excuse for an OS and have barely used it. To paraphrase Thom Hogan, they moved my cheese, bread, and mayo, and made it dam-near useless. If I had "upgraded" my Win7Pro machine by overwriting the OS with Win10, I'd presently be miserable AND out of business... IMAO, they changed Winblows so much and obsoleted so many of my tools, that it would be easier to learn a new OS, which is probably why I've been using Linux so much since last year.
That said, I've had a state of the art "new'&... (show quote)

I did it and had no problem. I am comfortable with the OS and none of my tools were made obsolete that I recall. Even my Delphi 5 compiler from the mid '90s works (they changed the Windows help system format so the help files no longer work but that happened in Win7). Win10 works for me. I am considering updating my desktop for reasons wholly unrelated to the OS. I've been using computers since around 1959-60 and have had to deal with a lot of OS changes.

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Apr 16, 2021 16:16:19   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
rfmaude41 wrote:
Just upgraded this computer from Win7 SP1; startup time is UNBEARABLE.

Description Win7 Win10
_____________________ _________________ _____________________________
Memory Leak Yes Fixed
Startup Tim 2 1/2 Minutes 9 - 10 Minutes (4 times Slower)
Mouse jumps Around Yes Fixed

Does anyone have any ideas how to fix these problems, particularly the startup time. Only real changes were the
addition of my Wacom tablet (large), but even with it disconnected, the startup times reman the same. Any advice,
greatly appreciated.
Just upgraded this computer from Win7 SP1; startup... (show quote)


Something is definitely not right. I have 14 year old Dell D530 laptop that I've kept running from XP to Windows 10. It only has 4 gig RAM, the maximum it will take. It isn't a fast computer by today's standards, but I jazzed it up by putting a 1 Tb Samsung SSD in it and installed Win 7 and Win 10 (clean installs) on two partitions. I have very little software installed. I use it intermittently for video capture through firewire. Nothing fancy.

Having both operating systems and essentially the same software installed on two partitions on the same hardware allowed me to perform a boot speed test on each OS using the free Boot Racer. See images attached. The results of a full boot, including starting services and startup programs came up around twice as long in Windows 10, but still under a minute. If you want to live with the way your computer is set up, see if you can put in an SSD. The machine will boot much faster. You can try a clean install of Windows as well. You may have to download some drivers from the manufacturer, but I found that even on my old machine, Windows provided drivers for just about everything. One of the pains of a clean install is having to reinstall all of your programs.


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Apr 16, 2021 16:56:51   #
jdmiles Loc: Texas
 
therwol wrote:
Something is definitely not right. I have 14 year old Dell D530 laptop that I've kept running from XP to Windows 10. It only has 4 gig RAM, the maximum it will take. It isn't a fast computer by today's standards, but I jazzed it up by putting a 1 Tb Samsung SSD in it and installed Win 7 and Win 10 (clean installs) on two partitions. I have very little software installed. I use it intermittently for video capture through firewire. Nothing fancy.

Having both operating systems and essentially the same software installed on two partitions on the same hardware allowed me to perform a boot speed test on each OS using the free Boot Racer. See images attached. The results of a full boot, including starting services and startup programs came up around twice as long in Windows 10, but still under a minute. If you want to live with the way your computer is set up, see if you can put in an SSD. The machine will boot much faster. You can try a clean install of Windows as well. You may have to download some drivers from the manufacturer, but I found that even on my old machine, Windows provided drivers for just about everything. One of the pains of a clean install is having to reinstall all of your programs.
Something is definitely not right. I have 14 yea... (show quote)

OMG. 14 years on same laptop is enough. Upgrade and enjoy photography.

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Apr 16, 2021 17:26:37   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jdmiles wrote:
OMG. 14 years on same laptop is enough. Upgrade and enjoy photography.


I have three other machines. Try to find an "out of the box" machine these days with a firewire port. You need one of those to transfer digital video tapes to files. No alternative. I had a bunch of them. My son had a bunch of them. When I went to rip the video from many DVDs I recorded on a Go Video recorder (to get rid of the DVDs), I found that I could not do that in Windows 10. It had something to do with the way those discs were finalized. Windows 7 to the rescue. That old machine has saved me many times. I may be done with it now, but I think it will sit in the closet for a bit longer "just in case."

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Apr 16, 2021 20:17:09   #
jdmiles Loc: Texas
 
therwol wrote:
I have three other machines. Try to find an "out of the box" machine these days with a firewire port. You need one of those to transfer digital video tapes to files. No alternative. I had a bunch of them. My son had a bunch of them. When I went to rip the video from many DVDs I recorded on a Go Video recorder (to get rid of the DVDs), I found that I could not do that in Windows 10. It had something to do with the way those discs were finalized. Windows 7 to the rescue. That old machine has saved me many times. I may be done with it now, but I think it will sit in the closet for a bit longer "just in case."
I have three other machines. Try to find an "... (show quote)

I just searched and I found something called FireWire to thunderbolt adapter. There are also PCI cards for FireWire. Good luck.

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