Win10 Performance
Apr 11, 2021 12:25:56 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
DirtFarmer wrote:
How old is the computer?
About 12 years old.
Apr 11, 2021 12:31:18 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
lamiaceae wrote:
How old is the PC and how much RAM? I new pc with Win 10 should run well. Perhaps too many start up apps running in back ground. Clean install or as replacement for win 7?
It is 12 years old with 16GB RAM. Just wondering why Win10 is so much slower than Win7.
Apr 11, 2021 12:34:09 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
joer wrote:
For the slow start up: Open Task Manager, go to Start UP and disable all but the security and your screen calibration (no impact on programs). Reboot and observe the change. If it didn't change much get a new computer.
My "other, better 1/2" would definitely not go along with the idea of a new one.
Apr 11, 2021 12:36:17 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
jdmiles wrote:
You didn't say how it performs when is is up. Is that acceptable?
Search for the Startup App and open it. You can turn off or delay these apps.
9-10 minutes does seem like a lot but it is not as important as how it behaves when started. I would go through each program and how it performs and if it has an upgrade.
You can also start the task manager and see what is using the resources.
Search for the Startup App and open it. You can turn off or delay these apps.
9-10 minutes does seem like a lot but it is not as important as how it behaves when started. I would go through each program and how it performs and if it has an upgrade.
You can also start the task manager and see what is using the resources.
Once it's up and running, performance is about the same as with Win7.
Apr 11, 2021 12:46:32 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
tcthome wrote:
I have a 11 year old labtop that Microsoft said it... (show quote)
I am doing the same (rebuilding a desktop). It has a Ryzen CPU, 1TB SSD and a good graphics card (8GB). Hopefully, my son will finish it up, sometime in the next two weeks. Then I'll "be back in business".
Apr 11, 2021 12:48:14 #
rfmaude41
Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
larryepage wrote:
If you did not add memory, I'd suggest starting there. 4gB is pretty much the starting point for Windows 10, before running much of anything else. And how full is your system disk? There may be other things going on, like driver incompatibilities, but I'd look at memory and disk space first.
I've been able to successfully update some surprisingly old machines, but there are no guarantees when machines get to be 8 or 9 years old.
I've been able to successfully update some surprisingly old machines, but there are no guarantees when machines get to be 8 or 9 years old.
It already has 16GB.
Apr 11, 2021 13:02:32 #
Easy solution to your problems - return to Windows 7. I was given a 2 year old Windows 10 Laptop and, personally, see no advantage over good old Win 7. My Windows 7 desktop boots up rapidly and it always seems that it takes 1 or 2 more steps to get to the same destination with Win 10! If you have no real use for the latest version of some programs such as PSE, which doesn't have full functionality running older versions of Windows, I see no reason to get frustrated with Windows 10!
Apr 11, 2021 13:05:12 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
rfmaude41 wrote:
It already has 16GB.
In that case, I suspect that you are just seeing the impact of the time required to load a larger operating system with more moving parts. I don't remember what you said that you had for a system drive, but if it isn't a solid state drive, I suspect that replacing the spinning drive with a SSD would yield significant immediate improvement in startup time. Lots of good choices, but I have had excellent luck with Samsung drives, and their cloning software is very good. They also provide software to allow easy tuning of drive performance.
Apr 11, 2021 13:33:13 #
rfmaude41 wrote:
Just upgraded this computer from Win7 SP1; startup... (show quote)
Probably just an old, slow computer. I attempted to upgrade two of my laptops from Win 7 to 10 and the installer told me the computers were not compatible with Win 10. They still run Win 7 just fine!
bwa
Apr 11, 2021 13:39:44 #
Only knowing ram doesn’t tell the full story, may be other bottlenecks. The other thing is upgrading over doing a clean Win 10 install. Upgrades have caused startup and performance issues for many people which a clean install may fix.
The other thing to check is that you have current drivers for your GPU. This can also lead to issues after a Win 10 upgrade. Don’t rely on Windows to get it right. Go to your card manufacturers site and download the latest drivers and install them.
If you are getting a new PC you might not wish to bother with any of this.
The other thing to check is that you have current drivers for your GPU. This can also lead to issues after a Win 10 upgrade. Don’t rely on Windows to get it right. Go to your card manufacturers site and download the latest drivers and install them.
If you are getting a new PC you might not wish to bother with any of this.
Apr 11, 2021 13:46:31 #
bwana wrote:
Probably just an old, slow computer. I attempted to upgrade two of my laptops from Win 7 to 10 and the installer told me the computers were not compatible with Win 10. They still run Win 7 just fine!
bwa
bwa
Unless you need a PC running Win 10 you are way better off leaving Wn 7 on older systems.
Apr 11, 2021 14:21:11 #
olddutch
Loc: Beloit, Wisconsin
Apple advertised their fusion hard drive which is small segment of it was solid-state drive and the rest in normal drive and for speed use the solid-state drive for booting up the computer which shorten the boot time and I don’t know if that would work on a PC or not
Apr 11, 2021 14:59:52 #
jdmiles
Loc: Texas
Then it is probably a bad behaving device driver. There are not that many things that can make windows that slow. For starters uninstall and remove any programs that you don't need. Use the Startup app to remove the other startup programs.
Apr 11, 2021 15:16:57 #
nobler wrote:
I've been messing with computers since 1972 (that ... (show quote)
None of the above apply to Macs. My 2013 iMac runs faster on MacOS 10.15.7 than it did on any previous OS, going all the way back to 10.6.8! That’s nine OS revisions.
That said, it gets retired soon, when I switch to Apple Silicon. My kid’s M1 MacBook Air is a screamer, by comparison with my iMac.
Apr 11, 2021 16:49:33 #
jdmiles
Loc: Texas
nobler wrote:
I've been messing with computers since 1972 (that ... (show quote)
Your whole premise is ridiculous. If you want to use the old programs you love, you could have. It is not Microsoft's fault. They publish lists and programs to check compatibility before upgrade. Windows 10 is the most stable and secure OS they have created. If your apps won't run maybe you should be after the makers for not providing a way forward. The worst products I know that don't provide a way forward is the scanner manufacturers. Yes it is hard to keep up with it. I didn't use the search tool Microsoft provides for years because I had my ways. This only slowed me down.
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