UHH has a 10 picture limit per initial post ...
Apr 8, 2021 12:53:05 #
I have posted 10 at once more than a few times on HedgeHog but I am down to zero now since I read the UHH agreement on submissions. Sorry to rain on everyones parade but Here is the UHH legalese that I cannot possibly agree to in the future.
Visitor agrees as a condition of viewing, that any communication between Visitor and Website is deemed a submission. By making a submission, Visitor grants the administration and the owners of the Website a worldwide, non-exclusive, irrevocable, royalty-free, sub-licenseable and transferable license to use in any way, reproduce and distribute the submission and prepare derivative works of the submission without further permission. This includes commercial and non-commercial use of all submissions, including portions thereof, graphics contained thereon, or any of the content of the submission. Visitor agrees to only communicate that information to the Website, which it wishes to forever allow the Website to use in any manner as it sees fit. "Submissions" is also a provision of the Privacy Policy.
Visitor agrees as a condition of viewing, that any communication between Visitor and Website is deemed a submission. By making a submission, Visitor grants the administration and the owners of the Website a worldwide, non-exclusive, irrevocable, royalty-free, sub-licenseable and transferable license to use in any way, reproduce and distribute the submission and prepare derivative works of the submission without further permission. This includes commercial and non-commercial use of all submissions, including portions thereof, graphics contained thereon, or any of the content of the submission. Visitor agrees to only communicate that information to the Website, which it wishes to forever allow the Website to use in any manner as it sees fit. "Submissions" is also a provision of the Privacy Policy.
Apr 8, 2021 13:00:00 #
Another tidbit from site's Terms of Service:
The website disclaims any responsibility for the accuracy of the content of this website. Visitors assume the all risk of viewing, reading, using, or relying upon this information. Unless you have otherwise formed an express contract to the contrary with the website, you have no right to rely on any information contained herein as accurate. The website makes no such warranty.
The website disclaims any responsibility for the accuracy of the content of this website. Visitors assume the all risk of viewing, reading, using, or relying upon this information. Unless you have otherwise formed an express contract to the contrary with the website, you have no right to rely on any information contained herein as accurate. The website makes no such warranty.
Apr 8, 2021 13:31:27 #
The ultimate favorite photograph of mine is always the first one on my next photo shoot. . . . . 
Apr 8, 2021 13:35:05 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Another tidbit from site's Terms of Service:
The website disclaims any responsibility for the accuracy of the content of this website. Visitors assume the all risk of viewing, reading, using, or relying upon this information. Unless you have otherwise formed an express contract to the contrary with the website, you have no right to rely on any information contained herein as accurate. The website makes no such warranty.
The website disclaims any responsibility for the accuracy of the content of this website. Visitors assume the all risk of viewing, reading, using, or relying upon this information. Unless you have otherwise formed an express contract to the contrary with the website, you have no right to rely on any information contained herein as accurate. The website makes no such warranty.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that standard boilerplate disclaimer you refer to.
What is unusually troubling is the UHH SUBMISSIONS agreement that applies when you Post images that is blatantly unconscionably confiscatory (including for their own commercial gain).
Apr 8, 2021 13:50:44 #
As noted in the other discussion, the Facebook terms of service are very similar. The entire 'section 2' is longer, too long to screen capture in one image, so here's a copied portion, including the common approach:
source: https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
3. The permissions you give us
We need certain permissions from you to provide our services:
Permission to use content you create and share: Some content that you share or upload, such as photos or videos, may be protected by intellectual property laws.
You own the intellectual property rights (things like copyright or trademarks) in any such content that you create and share on Facebook and the other Facebook Company Products you use. Nothing in these Terms takes away the rights you have to your own content. You are free to share your content with anyone else, wherever you want.
However, to provide our services we need you to give us some legal permissions (known as a ‘license’) to use this content. This is solely for the purposes of providing and improving our Products and services as described in Section 1 above.
Specifically, when you share, post, or upload content that is covered by intellectual property rights on or in connection with our Products, you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, and worldwide license to host, use, distribute, modify, run, copy, publicly perform or display, translate, and create derivative works of your content (consistent with your privacy and application settings). This means, for example, that if you share a photo on Facebook, you give us permission to store, copy, and share it with others (again, consistent with your settings) such as service providers that support our service or other Facebook Products you use.This license will end when your content is deleted from our systems.
You can delete content individually or all at once by deleting your account. Learn more about how to delete your account. You can download a copy of your data at any time before deleting your account.
source: https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
3. The permissions you give us
We need certain permissions from you to provide our services:
Permission to use content you create and share: Some content that you share or upload, such as photos or videos, may be protected by intellectual property laws.
You own the intellectual property rights (things like copyright or trademarks) in any such content that you create and share on Facebook and the other Facebook Company Products you use. Nothing in these Terms takes away the rights you have to your own content. You are free to share your content with anyone else, wherever you want.
However, to provide our services we need you to give us some legal permissions (known as a ‘license’) to use this content. This is solely for the purposes of providing and improving our Products and services as described in Section 1 above.
Specifically, when you share, post, or upload content that is covered by intellectual property rights on or in connection with our Products, you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, and worldwide license to host, use, distribute, modify, run, copy, publicly perform or display, translate, and create derivative works of your content (consistent with your privacy and application settings). This means, for example, that if you share a photo on Facebook, you give us permission to store, copy, and share it with others (again, consistent with your settings) such as service providers that support our service or other Facebook Products you use.This license will end when your content is deleted from our systems.
You can delete content individually or all at once by deleting your account. Learn more about how to delete your account. You can download a copy of your data at any time before deleting your account.
Apr 8, 2021 14:29:34 #
Apr 8, 2021 14:34:34 #
stan miller wrote:
I like that saying!
If you use "Quote Reply" we will know which saying you are talking about.
Apr 8, 2021 16:57:27 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
As noted in the other discussion, the Facebook ter... (show quote)
You won't find this language in Facebook (From the UHH Submissions Agreement):
"...non-exclusive, IRREVOCABLE, royalty-free, sub-licenseable and transferable license TO USE IN ANY WAY, REPRODUCE and distribute the submission and prepare derivative works of the submission without further permission. This includes COMMERCIAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE of all submissions, including portions thereof, graphics contained thereon, or any of the content of the submission. Visitor agrees to only communicate that information to the Website, which it wishes to FORVER ALLOW THE WEBSITE TO USE IN ANY MATTER IT SEES FIT."
Apr 8, 2021 17:04:15 #
Fotoartist wrote:
You won't find this language in Facebook (From the... (show quote)
You might want to put on your reading glasses and try again on the FB text ... try words like "create derivative works" and "distribute" and "non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free".
Apr 8, 2021 18:04:35 #
I confess that I did not pay much attention to those words in the UHH agreement. I'm not a professional and do not expect or accept payment for use of my images. I am pleased when attribution is given, and I appreciate being asked before giving approval. I am fully aware that once an image has been posted to any public site on the Internet it is not possible to prevent someone from capturing it and using it, for whatever purpose they wish. Since I don't derive remuneration from my photography, my only concern with that would be if someone used one of my images for illegal or immoral purposes.
So far, one of my images has been slightly modified and used as a book cover, and 2 others have been incorporated into travel brochures or documents. (I wasn't asked about the book, but approved it after the fact--no attribution; the other uses requested permission first.) For all I know, others may have been captured and used.
So far, one of my images has been slightly modified and used as a book cover, and 2 others have been incorporated into travel brochures or documents. (I wasn't asked about the book, but approved it after the fact--no attribution; the other uses requested permission first.) For all I know, others may have been captured and used.
Apr 8, 2021 18:43:33 #
David in Dallas wrote:
I confess that I did not pay much attention to tho... (show quote)
As an amateur photographer I have the same attitude.
The most enjoyment I get fishing is setting the hook. The most fun I have with photography is capturing the image. Catch and release is fine by me in either case.
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Apr 9, 2021 12:05:08 #
Fotoartist wrote:
You won't find this language in Facebook (From the... (show quote)
So much for the "Hey! I do not see your posted photos proving your ideas" comments.
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