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Mar 18, 2021 16:13:34   #
LMM57 Loc: Mars, PA
 
Greetings -

Vacation in Maine mid-July, mostly to sight see, etc. Will take whale watch and seabird boat tours.

I typically use a Nikon D500 with their 200-500mm f5.6 lens. I want to try a faster Nikon prime lens, so I plan to rent one for the pending trip to Maine.

500mm f4 Nikkor lenses (G or E versions) are less expensive to rent than their 600mm counterparts. G versions rental costs are less than E version (500 f4 or 600 f4).

Two questions, here's the first. Using the D500, and all conditions being equal (say puffins on an island viewed from a rocking tour boat 50 yards away), will there be a significant (however you define that) difference in image quality on a 16"x20" print between photos taken with a G-lens and an E-lens (same focal length)?

Question two is the same as number one, but the comparison is between the 500mm and 600mm lenses (same version for each, say the older G)?

Thanks for your time and opinion.

lmm

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Mar 18, 2021 16:34:45   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
I'm not going to be able to help you with the lens question, now puffins, we took the cruise out of Boothbay Harbor, puffins are small, incredibly FAST birds! Think a 1 qt milk jug for size, and what was that for fast, large boat, very rocky island, I don't think we got within 100 yds of the island, probably furthur out, I had a 55-250 on a T1i at the time , I need to go again to try again, Good Luck, Bob.

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Mar 18, 2021 16:53:52   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
lensrentals.com has gotten praise in the past. I have no experience with them, but have seen postings to that effect.

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Mar 18, 2021 16:58:34   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
borrowlenses.com. The Nikon 500mm PF is great for handholding. You can use it with a teleconverter. I love this lens, takes great shots.

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Mar 18, 2021 17:06:08   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
via the lens wrote:
borrowlenses.com. The Nikon 500mm PF is great for handholding. You can use it with a teleconverter. I love this lens, takes great shots.


Except he wants a faster lens than the F/5.6 than he already had.

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Mar 18, 2021 17:17:41   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
LMM57 wrote:
Greetings -

Vacation in Maine mid-July, mostly to sight see, etc. Will take whale watch and seabird boat tours.

I typically use a Nikon D500 with their 200-500mm f5.6 lens. I want to try a faster Nikon prime lens, so I plan to rent one for the pending trip to Maine.

500mm f4 Nikkor lenses (G or E versions) are less expensive to rent than their 600mm counterparts. G versions rental costs are less than E version (500 f4 or 600 f4).

Two questions, here's the first. Using the D500, and all conditions being equal (say puffins on an island viewed from a rocking tour boat 50 yards away), will there be a significant (however you define that) difference in image quality on a 16"x20" print between photos taken with a G-lens and an E-lens (same focal length)?

Question two is the same as number one, but the comparison is between the 500mm and 600mm lenses (same version for each, say the older G)?

Thanks for your time and opinion.

lmm
Greetings - br br Vacation in Maine mid-July, mos... (show quote)


I don't think you will see a difference in results between the G and E. The difference there is how the aperture is activated.

When I photographed Puffins on an island in Newfoundland I was using a 500mm. My friends were using 400 or 600mm. Our captain had anchored the boat and rowed us to shore one at a time in the dinghy. My suggestion is get the longest lens possible. With a 600mm the f/4.0 aperture will help because you will want to crank up the shutter speed. It will also be better if you decide to use a 1.4x extender.

These birds are amazing the way they dive into the water. Put the camera down for at least a few minutes and just watch them.

Have fun!!!

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Mar 18, 2021 19:29:20   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
lmm - let's go back to your original thesis, shooting from a small rocking boat at fast twitchy small birds some distance away. First - I hope you are not subject to seasickness. Secondly - a monopod or tripod will do you no good, so you will be hand holding a large lens. 600mm lenses are large, and more importantly, very heavy. I doubt you will enjoy your outing if you have to use one, let alone swing it around rapidly clearing the decks. Standard 500mm varieties are slightly smaller and lighter but afflicted with the same basic issues.

I think via the lens is on the right track here. The 500 pf is considerably smaller, lighter and hand holdable. You are going to do better hiking the iso one notch to make up for the lost aperture.

Now, if you expect to go ashore that is a different story. You can go big and take a sturdy tripod and do just fine.

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Mar 19, 2021 06:32:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
LMM57 wrote:
Greetings -

Vacation in Maine mid-July, mostly to sight see, etc. Will take whale watch and seabird boat tours.

I typically use a Nikon D500 with their 200-500mm f5.6 lens. I want to try a faster Nikon prime lens, so I plan to rent one for the pending trip to Maine.

500mm f4 Nikkor lenses (G or E versions) are less expensive to rent than their 600mm counterparts. G versions rental costs are less than E version (500 f4 or 600 f4).

Two questions, here's the first. Using the D500, and all conditions being equal (say puffins on an island viewed from a rocking tour boat 50 yards away), will there be a significant (however you define that) difference in image quality on a 16"x20" print between photos taken with a G-lens and an E-lens (same focal length)?

Question two is the same as number one, but the comparison is between the 500mm and 600mm lenses (same version for each, say the older G)?

Thanks for your time and opinion.

lmm
Greetings - br br Vacation in Maine mid-July, mos... (show quote)


Rent an R5 and the new 800mm f11. No it is not faster but the new sensor IQ, high ISO capability and great DR more than makes up for it and it is actually hand holdable. With the IBIS in the camera and IS in the lens you will have a very steady set up and bring those birds right into the camera.
Your 200-500mm would be best for whales. I used a 100-400mm and found the 100mm end was used frequently as well as the 400mm.
Have fun.

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Mar 19, 2021 06:43:17   #
donphotog
 
I heartily endorse lensrentals.com. Have used them on numerous occasions and found them extremely reliable. They offer insurance including theft.
Good luck in Maine a most photogenic state in which you will definitely need the longer focal length lens.

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Mar 19, 2021 08:18:07   #
Robert1 Loc: Davie, FL
 
Lensrentals.com. they are fantastic. Good prices, keep you up to day with the whole process of renting, shipping, returning.

I have used them. I recommend them.

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Mar 19, 2021 08:29:39   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Your timing is at the 'end' of the black fly season. I suggest you bring a repellent with Picaridin, instead of Deet. There are two strengths--purchase the spray with 20%. You can spray it on your clothes as well (without any issues). It will last through the day.
This suggestion is for your entire trip in Maine. This way you can enjoy shooting the everything beautiful about Maine, instead of wanting to shoot the Black Flies and Mosquitos!

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Mar 19, 2021 08:55:32   #
Bugs
 
I'm approaching the return time of a Sigma 60-600, Canon, my second rental from Lensrentals. Highly recommend.

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Mar 19, 2021 09:33:19   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Hunts Photo and Video rents lenses. I’ve done business with them for years. They have stores in a number of New England states, including Maine. There’s a store in Portland. Their mother ship is in Melrose Ma, a Boston suburb. Give them a call.

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Mar 19, 2021 12:10:43   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
This really looks like a job for the Olympus 150-400mm ( there are teleconverters too. If you are luck enough to find one available along with an Olympus body. Your back will thank you.

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Mar 19, 2021 12:33:26   #
DanCSF Loc: SA Bay Area CA
 
I've used CamerLensRentals.com in the past they are my goto place...super customer service, but not as big a selection as other companies, still they are my go to place because of customer service.

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