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Mar 7, 2021 19:07:34   #
grahamfourth
 
I need some experienced advise. I am looking to upgrade from my current camera (Nikon D7200). I am looking at the Nikon z6/6 ii. While looking at these I noticed the Canon EOS 5DS R on sale for about 1/3 of the original price. I understand that it came out in ~2015. So my question is whether it makes sense to purchase a camera that was great in its time, so to speak, but now is older, or whether to focus (no pun intended) on newer technologies?

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Mar 7, 2021 19:09:37   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
GAS or things the D7200 won't do? Haven't found much myself. Might buy another with low shutter activations.

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Mar 7, 2021 19:19:27   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
Of you change from Nikon to Canon you would have to change all your lenses I am not aware of an adaptor that will allow Nikon glass to fit a Canon ef camera.

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Mar 7, 2021 19:21:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When DSLRs reached 24MP, like your D7200, there isn't much of a reason to 'upgrade' unless you're changing to full frame and that you understand you're giving up the 'reach' of the cropped 24MP vs the full frame 24MP. Changing brands is highly questionable given the need for new lenses too.

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Mar 7, 2021 19:22:19   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
I worry when we agree.

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Mar 7, 2021 19:31:28   #
Bbarn Loc: Ohio
 
I went from a D7200 to a Canon EOS RP. I wanted to go full frame and would need to buy new lenses anyway, so switching brands was on the table for me.

I'm happy with the RP, and am likely buy another mirror camera. The D6/D6II would be a nice choice if you are wanting a full frame camera and want to stick with Nikon. New lenses would be required to take full advantage of the full frame body (except for perhaps some FF Nikon lenses you already own). Nikon's FTZ adapter would also be required to use non-Z mount FF Nikon lenses on the D6/D6II, and depending on the lens series, some of the FF lenses are not functional even with the adapter.

The 5DS R is a step up in resolution and is a mighty fine DSLR (but not mirrorless, if that is important to you).

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Mar 7, 2021 20:38:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
If you want to go FF then I’d go for the Z6II but if that’s not important then you might think about looking at the Z50. Personally I upgraded from a D7200 about two years ago to be a D500. Then a year ago I was looking at the D850 but ended up getting the Z7 and I love it. I still love the D500 with the 200-500 for wildlife, but I use the Z7 for everything else. I only had a couple of DX lenses so most of my lenses work great with the FTZ adapter.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:04:24   #
ELNikkor
 
Keep the D7200, but go for the Z6II and Z lenses. After a year, you'll know what to do with the D7200.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:15:57   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
John Hicks wrote:
Of you change from Nikon to Canon you would have to change all your lenses I am not aware of an adaptor that will allow Nikon glass to fit a Canon ef camera.


Just a note of clarification. The Canon camera he referred to is not an ef camera.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:36:03   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
leftj wrote:
Just a note of clarification. The Canon camera he referred to is not an ef camera.


What? The OP referenced the "Canon EOS 5DS R", an EF-mount DSLR. The sequence and context of the John Hicks reply also is clearly the EOS 5DS R.

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Mar 8, 2021 07:43:43   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What? The OP referenced the "Canon EOS 5DS R", an EF-mount DSLR. The sequence and context of the John Hicks reply also is clearly the EOS 5DS R.


My bad. I read it as the EOS R mirror-less Canon.

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Mar 8, 2021 09:48:29   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
grahamfourth wrote:
I need some experienced advise. I am looking to upgrade from my current camera (Nikon D7200). I am looking at the Nikon z6/6 ii. While looking at these I noticed the Canon EOS 5DS R on sale for about 1/3 of the original price. I understand that it came out in ~2015. So my question is whether it makes sense to purchase a camera that was great in its time, so to speak, but now is older, or whether to focus (no pun intended) on newer technologies?


Your describing the Nikon D500 to a T.

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Mar 8, 2021 09:51:28   #
Sensei
 
Decide what it is you want to gain when you purchase the new camera. Often an older camera will serve just as well. It depends on your purpose. Sometimes the best thing to do is invest in a different lens. Before you purchase a new camera consider if it has features you need. features that rarely needed, but nice to have, or if you would be buying things you will never use. Depending on what the shooting situation and environment requires I would take a different camera with me. Sometimes what I need is a high speed shutter, at other times I need to print something very large. More often than not I use a Sony Aps C, camera with a 24-300 mm lens for what I do, while I have friends who would not consider a camera that was not full frame and rarely shoot with anything other than a full frame camera and an 80 mm prime lens.

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Mar 8, 2021 10:22:07   #
bleirer
 
I wonder about that myself and think about two other top cameras that are coming down in price, especially used, because newer mirrorless ones are in the mix. The Nikon d850 and the Canon 5d mark 4 would be my picks. Since I have canon lenses the decision is easy, but a high resolution camera will show off all the flaws of lenses you thought were good.

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Mar 8, 2021 13:29:22   #
Josephakraig
 
I would say if your using Nikon now your best bet is staying with it. There are cameras you can buy used that are better than your D7200 but not much. If you want to crop more then you might want to consider a full frame with high mega pixels. The best improvement you will get with nikon full frame would be going to the D810 or even the D850. The 7200 is a nice camera but doesn't have the greatest dynamic range. Both of the 810 and 850 cameras have remarkable dynamic range, the D850 (at about one stop higher DR than the 810) is likely the best dynamic range camera there is right now in less than medium format. If you are going to be shooting birds then the D500 is really nice and you can get one used pretty cheap. The sensor on the D500 has a tendency to clip highlights so you have to be kinda of careful at the bright end. With the 850 You would have to go with the nikon grip and D5 battery to start coming close to the shudder per second ability of the D500 though. That being said the D850 has a crop (or DX) mode that makes the DX lenses work so that you can use your old lenses until you purchase ff lenses if you go that way.

The truth is until you know why you want to upgrade it is hard to say what would be best. I've had 12, 24,36 and 46 megapixel Nikons. The high resolution is fantastic for cropping but once you get past 24 that's pretty much the only advantage, but that is a huge advantage.

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