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Feb 25, 2021 18:34:29   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I have never used Macs always used Windows pc, never had a problem only once running I tunes, removed I tunes problem cured. Used to be a building manager in London England and there was a large consultancy as one of the companies, had a new IT director and persuaded the company to go from Windows machines to Apple Macs, spent over a million pounds and more on software. About eighteen months the company won a massive contract which required engineering cad programs, Apple did not have one at that time, the had to buy all new wiring does pc,a cost an absolute fortune as each car program was a thousand pounds each. About two months later when all the machines were networked and new large servers purchased they sacked the IT director and employed a new one. A salutary lesson learnt.

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Feb 25, 2021 20:19:26   #
mchroust Loc: McMinnville, Oregon
 
I started way back when computers ran on DOS system. Anyone remembers that? Then I started with windows when windows had V3. Used Windows until 2011 when I got tired of all the problems that kept coming up and my computer finally crashed. At that time my daughter had a 2010 23" iMac. I liked what I seen and I bought the 2011 27" iMac. Since then I had 2015 27" iMac and finally now I have the 2020 iMac. My daughter has the 2015, my son has the 2011 and my 8 year old granddaughter has my daughter's 2010 23" iMac. That is called recicling.
I newer looked back at Windows machine again.

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Feb 26, 2021 00:49:42   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
mchroust wrote:
I started way back when computers ran on DOS system. Anyone remembers that? Then I started with windows when windows had V3. Used Windows until 2011 when I got tired of all the problems that kept coming up and my computer finally crashed. At that time my daughter had a 2010 23" iMac. I liked what I seen and I bought the 2011 27" iMac. Since then I had 2015 27" iMac and finally now I have the 2020 iMac. My daughter has the 2015, my son has the 2011 and my 8 year old granddaughter has my daughter's 2010 23" iMac. That is called recicling.
I newer looked back at Windows machine again.
I started way back when computers ran on DOS syste... (show quote)


I remember my dad buying a Commodore64 and learning how to program that beast just to play games on it

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Feb 26, 2021 07:11:23   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
Fred Harwood wrote:
Love my 27-inch iMac!!


Yeah Man, nothing like it.... my wife's windows is SO screwed up from upgrades she could scream. The 27 grows on you !

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Feb 26, 2021 10:40:22   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I had a Commodore64. I can remember we asked for a 120 MEGA BITE (not Gig) computer and corporate came back and said we will never use that much )inf) and allowed us to get a 70Meg computer. We used it up.

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Feb 26, 2021 11:15:05   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
The group I worked in was using multiple Terabytes in the '90s.

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Feb 26, 2021 15:18:37   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ecblackiii wrote:
I was originally an Apple fan from the 1980's through the 1997 and used it a lot, with great appreciation for the graphics capability. In addition, since Apple sold far fewer machines than those using DOS/Windows operating systems, they were much less likely to be attacked with malware. But, then Microsoft caught up with Apple's technology and made its programs equally easy to use, and both equally need malware protection. So for the past two decades, I have been a Windows user. Now, when I use an Apple product, I find it more difficult to use than the Windows version. Since the price of Apple machines are still much higher than Windows, I can't imagine ever going back.
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Funny, I've used PCs and Macs together since 1986. From 2008 to 2012, I used a MacBook Pro with Parallels Desktop to run Windows and Windows apps. I used Lightroom and Photoshop on the Mac. I used Final Cut Express, iMovie, GarageBand, and Graphic Converter on the Mac. I used Microsoft Office on both platforms. I did a fair amount of FileMaker Pro development for both platforms. We had several proprietary corporate apps on Windows, plus Kodak DP2 lab software, and IBM AS/400 Client Access.

It all ran seamlessly. Windows ran like it did on my PC laptop, but I only had to travel with one computer. These days, I'm using an iMac in much the same way.

I've always preferred the MacOS. Now, with the Apple Silicon Systems on Chips, they control the *entire stack,* from hardware, to operating system to, in some cases, the software (i.e.; the paid apps, Final Cut Pro, Compressor, Motion, Logic Pro, Mainstage, and the nearly 30 apps included with the system which are so good, some folks won't need to pay extra for replacements).

Apple also controls the entire distribution channel, with a few notable exceptions. Software? It's curated for the App Store. Hardware? Apple Store. Service? Apple Store Genius Bar, or Apple phone support. YES, IT'S A VIRTUAL MONOPOLY. Users don't care, because it works very well. It's not perfect, but it's nice to have one company to "reach out and choke."

PC users love to talk about how cheap and easy to build or repair their hardware is. I get that. Most of the computer market has been a "race to the bottom" since the first Compaq came out. But what you get is a processor from AMD or Intel, add-on memory or graphics processors from third parties, an OS from Microsoft or some Linux provider, and software that has to be written for a broad range of possible combinations of those. For the most part, it works "well enough." But for some of us, it just isn't intuitive. And worse, when it doesn't work as expected, a two or three way blame party happens, and the dealer throws up their hands and says, "Call the software vendor," who says, "Call the computer vendor or the third party hardware company," who says, "What? You didn't get an answer? Well call Microsoft, then."

Interface inconsistencies drive us crazy. It's like getting in a different brand of rental car each week, after driving [pick your brand] for decades. Things that ought to be built into the OS require third party utilities.

I actually like Win 10. It's probably Microsoft's best effort to date. But I run it on a Mac, because Apple and Parallels provide all the right drivers for the hardware. It just works better than it does on our off-brand PC.

By "better," I mean without hassles. It's not faster than it would be on a similarly-priced PC from the same era as my iMac, but it isn't bogged down with crapware.

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