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Feb 24, 2021 17:07:30   #
Saigon Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Some people like to use a a mild soup like Dawn. Results may vary.


Hope it wasn't your R5 Paul!

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Feb 24, 2021 17:12:53   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
Winslowe wrote:
Cleaning lenses is no different now than ever. A camel's hair brush, lens cleaning fluid and lens tissues are all you should need. Follow the directions for the cleaning kit and/or your lens user's manual.


Well said. Thanks

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Feb 24, 2021 18:25:04   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Some people like to use a a mild soup like Dawn. Results may vary.


I didn't know you were a poor guy, Paul. I use my dishwasher.

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Feb 25, 2021 10:16:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Urnst wrote:
I was wondering what the current thinking among you is how and how often to clean modern (within the last 30 years) lenses. I remember when some experienced photographers advised against cleaning lenses unless they were smeared or covered with fingerprints because of the risk of damaging the lens. I assume that philosophy is pretty much outdated; what are the current ones? Are eyeglass cleaners ok? Rubbing alcohol? Cotton cloth of microfibers? Paper lens cleaning material? I would be grateful to read what you believe. Thanks
I was wondering what the current thinking among yo... (show quote)


I use Zeiss wipes if the lens looks dirty.

Cleaning -
http://www.diyphotography.net/5-easy-top-tips-keeping-lenses-clean/
http://www.diyphotography.net/clean-camera-lenses-check-problems/
https://photographylife.com/how-to-clean-slr-camera-lenses

Interesting -
http://kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2008/10/front-element-scratches
Inside-
http://photographylife.com/what-to-do-with-dust-inside-lens

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Feb 25, 2021 10:26:49   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Some people like to use a a mild soup like Dawn. Results may vary.


Paul--I'm assuming your use of 'a mild soup' instead of 'a mild soap' was intentional. I gave your technique a try and have to admit that it was a bit difficult to get all the water back out of my Nikon. Maybe your system works better for Canon. Just going to try the dishwasher next time as it has an excellent drying system. Wish me luck. On a bit more serious note, I try never to shoot in conditions that will dirty the lens to the point that any more than a bit of air from my rocket duster would be needed. My fear is damaging delicate coatings. Perhaps that is not so much of an issue with more modern lenses but old habits die hard.

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Feb 25, 2021 10:45:52   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
nervous2 wrote:
Paul--I'm assuming your use of 'a mild soup' instead of 'a mild soap' was intentional. I gave your technique a try and have to admit that it was a bit difficult to get all the water back out of my Nikon. Maybe your system works better for Canon. Just going to try the dishwasher next time as it has an excellent drying system. Wish me luck. On a bit more serious note, I try never to shoot in conditions that will dirty the lens to the point that any more than a bit of air from my rocket duster would be needed. My fear is damaging delicate coatings. Perhaps that is not so much of an issue with more modern lenses but old habits die hard.
Paul--I'm assuming your use of 'a mild soup' inste... (show quote)


LOL, I didn't notice that typo. It makes it funnier. Regarding conditions and cleanings and coatings, this is why I may be the firmest believer in filters on lenses within this community.

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Feb 25, 2021 11:37:04   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
"CHG CANON" the only problem I found was they get banged around too much in the dryer.

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Feb 25, 2021 11:37:57   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Urnst wrote:
Someone suggested using "lens pens" as part of their cleaning routine. What are they and how do they work? Is there any risk of harm to the lens in using them? Thanks for any advice you may have.


I’ve been using a Lens Pen for over 30 years on rifle scopes, telescope lenses, and cameras. I have the 3 piece set, which has a nice small one for small and hard to fit area’s. Or you can get a single size one for less than $10.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1058626-REG/lenspen_ndslrk_1c_dslr_pro_kit_w_micro_clear.html

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Feb 25, 2021 14:13:57   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Modern lenses are a lot tougher than people think. Far tougher than any filter!

I typically don't use "protection" filters on my lenses. In my opinion, that's just plain silly in most circumstances.

I DO have protection filters for my lenses, but I only install them when actually needed (rare occasions such as out shooting in a sand storm or shooting at a paint ball battle or near surf and sea air).

I also like BUYING used lenses that have had filters on them "from new". That suggests the lens has been "babied" (though it is usually badly in need of cleaning once the filter is removed... filters DON'T prevent the lens from getting dirty).

Best cleaning process is...

1. Remove any dust or grit.... a blower or soft brush or gentle wipe with a dry micro fiber cloth does the trick. The reason for this is that some dust specks may be hard minerals that can scratch the coatings on the surface of the lens.

2. Dampen a micro fiber cloth with lens cleaner and gently wipe the lens to remove any oils from finger prints or sea air or water spots. (Never drip or spray cleaning solution onto the lens, as it can get into places it shouldn't.)

3. Dry with a micro fiber cloth.

4. Gently polish the surface with a "lens pen". The previous cleaning is likely to have left some slight haze on the surface and this step will clean that off, making the surface more resistant to dust adhering in the future.

Note: I use two different types of micro fiber cloths. One is "smooth" and specifically designed to clean optics. Those can be bought in bulk from various sources. The other type is more of a terry cloth that's great to remove dust from optics and more general cleaning of the camera or lens body. I buy those from local auto parts stores. Both types of micro fiber cloths can be cleaned and reused. However, if put through the laundry be sure no fabric softener is used in either the wash or drying cycle, because that will leave residues in the cloth that will smear optics. Even if "dryer sheets" were used on a previous load, there may be some of that remaining in the dryer during a subsequent load that will ruin the micro fiber cloth. Separate hand cleaning and air drying may be the safest way to clean them.

Old lenses used "softer" coatings or might even have been uncoated, and were quite prone to "cleaning marks" from lens cleaning tissues. Most of those are paper made from wood pulp, which naturally has some minerals in it that can cause "micro" scratches. When there are a lot of those scratches, they form the cleaning marks. Although they are probably okay with more modern lenses, I still avoid using paper lens cleaning tissues. There may be "100% rag" paper cleaning tissues that are okay to use. There are products like Pec Pads and wipes (which I use for sensor cleaning). But micro fiber cloths just seem similarly safe, are widely available and aren't expensive when bought in bulk.

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Feb 25, 2021 14:24:58   #
Jorgy
 
When I worked for Minolta as a technical representative we were taught (assuming all of the visible dust is brushed or blown off first) to only use the condensation from one's breath on the lens followed by a wipe with a photo grade (very thin) chamois. This was the only technique that truly left no residue as proved by lightly exhaling on the lens surface after cleaning (try this after using any of the other suggested techniques submitted). This was also the only technique advocated for cleaning the front-silvered mirror of an SLR.

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Feb 25, 2021 14:33:22   #
lowkick Loc: Connecticut
 
How about peeing on the lens and wiping it off with a wad of 3 ply Charmin?

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Feb 25, 2021 16:50:34   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Modern lenses are a lot tougher than people think. Far tougher than any filter!

I typically don't use "protection" filters on my lenses. In my opinion, that's just plain silly in most circumstances.

I DO have protection filters for my lenses, but I only install them when actually needed (rare occasions such as out shooting in a sand storm or shooting at a paint ball battle or near surf and sea air).

I also like BUYING used lenses that have had filters on them "from new". That suggests the lens has been "babied" (though it is usually badly in need of cleaning once the filter is removed... filters DON'T prevent the lens from getting dirty).

Best cleaning process is...

1. Remove any dust or grit.... a blower or soft brush or gentle wipe with a dry micro fiber cloth does the trick. The reason for this is that some dust specks may be hard minerals that can scratch the coatings on the surface of the lens.

2. Dampen a micro fiber cloth with lens cleaner and gently wipe the lens to remove any oils from finger prints or sea air or water spots. (Never drip or spray cleaning solution onto the lens, as it can get into places it shouldn't.)

3. Dry with a micro fiber cloth.

4. Gently polish the surface with a "lens pen". The previous cleaning is likely to have left some slight haze on the surface and this step will clean that off, making the surface more resistant to dust adhering in the future.

Note: I use two different types of micro fiber cloths. One is "smooth" and specifically designed to clean optics. Those can be bought in bulk from various sources. The other type is more of a terry cloth that's great to remove dust from optics and more general cleaning of the camera or lens body. I buy those from local auto parts stores. Both types of micro fiber cloths can be cleaned and reused. However, if put through the laundry be sure no fabric softener is used in either the wash or drying cycle, because that will leave residues in the cloth that will smear optics. Even if "dryer sheets" were used on a previous load, there may be some of that remaining in the dryer during a subsequent load that will ruin the micro fiber cloth. Separate hand cleaning and air drying may be the safest way to clean them.

Old lenses used "softer" coatings or might even have been uncoated, and were quite prone to "cleaning marks" from lens cleaning tissues. Most of those are paper made from wood pulp, which naturally has some minerals in it that can cause "micro" scratches. When there are a lot of those scratches, they form the cleaning marks. Although they are probably okay with more modern lenses, I still avoid using paper lens cleaning tissues. There may be "100% rag" paper cleaning tissues that are okay to use. There are products like Pec Pads and wipes (which I use for sensor cleaning). But micro fiber cloths just seem similarly safe, are widely available and aren't expensive when bought in bulk.
Modern lenses are a lot tougher than people think.... (show quote)


Thanks for the thoughtful and comprehensive answer

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Feb 25, 2021 16:54:09   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
lowkick wrote:
How about peeing on the lens and wiping it off with a wad of 3 ply Charmin?


You guys are just a million laughs!

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Feb 26, 2021 02:53:45   #
ecar Loc: Oregon, USA
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
I am old fashioned. I use first a camels hair brush to remove dirt. I hold the lens upside down as I brush. I use Kodak Lens cleaner wet on Kodak lens tissue. Then repeat with dry lens tissue to dry. However most of my lenses have a quality UV filter and that is what gets cleaned.The glass is virgin from new.


Yes. The first thing I do when I buy a new lens is put a UV filter on it for protection, and against dirt/dust contamination.


Years ago, while buying a video camera, the salesman almost made it mandatory to put a UV filter on the lens for it's protection. I've done it ever since.

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Feb 27, 2021 01:30:13   #
hrblaine
 
Urnst wrote:
I already tried that on my Canon mirrorless and lenses. Take my advice; it doesn't work that well.


Yeah, no soup for you! <g>

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