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Dr. TOPAZ to photography STAT!!
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Feb 21, 2021 15:36:48   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
I just noticed some of the steps that Topaz Sharpen goes through:
Listed in no particular order: INVOKING CONVOLUTIONAL CORTEX / REARRANGING NEURAL NODES / FIRING ALL NEURAL SYNAPSES / INVOKING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / VERIFYING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / GROUPING NEOCORTICAL NODES . The program works very well and I think some engineers are chuckling. No wonder you need a "Kick-ass" computer for Same-Day Service on large batches of photos!

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Feb 21, 2021 15:55:47   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Personally, I prefer a bit more control over my processes than letting some AI take over.
--Bob
Howard5252 wrote:
I just noticed some of the steps that Topaz Sharpen goes through:
Listed in no particular order: INVOKING CONVOLUTIONAL CORTEX / REARRANGING NEURAL NODES / FIRING ALL NEURAL SYNAPSES / INVOKING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / VERIFYING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / GROUPING NEOCORTICAL NODES . The program works very well and I think some engineers are chuckling. No wonder you need a "Kick-ass" computer for Same-Day Service on large batches of photos!

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Feb 21, 2021 16:24:17   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
You can manually set many of the controls. What he is talking about is topaz shows all the steps it is doing during a rendering.

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Feb 21, 2021 17:26:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Personally, I prefer a bit more control over my processes than letting some AI take over.
--Bob


Me too.
Like the AI knows what I want....
(Probably just a glorified program based on averages.)

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Feb 21, 2021 19:27:31   #
MadMikeOne Loc: Southern New Jersey Shore
 
Howard5252 wrote:
I just noticed some of the steps that Topaz Sharpen goes through:
Listed in no particular order: INVOKING CONVOLUTIONAL CORTEX / REARRANGING NEURAL NODES / FIRING ALL NEURAL SYNAPSES / INVOKING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / VERIFYING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / GROUPING NEOCORTICAL NODES . The program works very well and I think some engineers are chuckling. No wonder you need a "Kick-ass" computer for Same-Day Service on large batches of photos!


OMG, sounds like brain surgery!

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Feb 21, 2021 19:38:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
Howard5252 wrote:
I just noticed some of the steps that Topaz Sharpen goes through:
Listed in no particular order: INVOKING CONVOLUTIONAL CORTEX / REARRANGING NEURAL NODES / FIRING ALL NEURAL SYNAPSES / INVOKING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / VERIFYING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / GROUPING NEOCORTICAL NODES . The program works very well and I think some engineers are chuckling. No wonder you need a "Kick-ass" computer for Same-Day Service on large batches of photos!

Reminds me of Jose Jimenez, The Astronaut (Bill Dana) -
Jose goes through listing all these complicated processes preparing the spacecraft for take-off,
interviewer says "And then you're really up there!",
Jose says "No, that opens the door, ....".

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Feb 21, 2021 23:23:08   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
Longshadow wrote:

Me too.
Like the AI knows what I want....
(Probably just a glorified program based on averages.)


This program doesn't know any more or less about what you want than any other editing program; it just does a very good job of what you expect it to do. Personally, I think it's possible that the engineers are just having some fun with us.

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Feb 22, 2021 05:32:21   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
Longshadow wrote:

Me too.
Like the AI knows what I want....
(Probably just a glorified program based on averages.)


Absolutely not. AI refers to the processing algorithms used achieve the results that you can control. All those fancy step names are just Topaz marketing, but the program itself achieves top quality sharpening, head and shoulders above anything else on the market.

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Feb 22, 2021 06:42:30   #
HOHIMER
 
kymarto wrote:
Absolutely not. AI refers to the processing algorithms used achieve the results that you can control. All those fancy step names are just Topaz marketing, but the program itself achieves top quality sharpening, head and shoulders above anything else on the market.


Can you show us an example...before and after?

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Feb 22, 2021 06:53:41   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Howard5252 wrote:
I just noticed some of the steps that Topaz Sharpen goes through:
Listed in no particular order: INVOKING CONVOLUTIONAL CORTEX / REARRANGING NEURAL NODES / FIRING ALL NEURAL SYNAPSES / INVOKING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / VERIFYING NEURAL SHIFT INVARIANCE / GROUPING NEOCORTICAL NODES . The program works very well and I think some engineers are chuckling. No wonder you need a "Kick-ass" computer for Same-Day Service on large batches of photos!


My kick ass computer is a cheap Lenovo Ideapad 330s and it does just fine in Topaz, no kick ass computer needed for me thank you.

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Feb 22, 2021 07:02:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
billnikon wrote:
My kick ass computer is a cheap Lenovo Ideapad 330s and it does just fine in Topaz, no kick ass computer needed for me thank you.


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Feb 22, 2021 07:29:11   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
rmalarz wrote:
Personally, I prefer a bit more control over my processes than letting some AI take over.
--Bob


You must still drive a stick shift car, do not want the car decide when it needs to shift. Just sayin.

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Feb 22, 2021 07:40:57   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
My kick ass computer is a cheap Lenovo Ideapad 330s and it does just fine in Topaz, no kick ass computer needed for me thank you.

Billnikon's 330 may do fine, but his comment stimulated my comments below:

I am amazed that those who pay big money for glass, and DSLR, and expensive software [humph, rental !], run old technology computers. Building a "kick-ass" computer will cost about $1000, using last year's technology. Do a Google on DIY PC construction and you will see it is easy. Years ago, it was a task, now, things only fit one way.
[mine is AMD 3600 CPU, M-2 MOBO attached C-drive, and 32 gigs of fast memory]
I was amazed when I retired my 5-year-old build and went with 2019 components... FAST... really fast.

AMD 3600 and components to match. [RIP Intel]
" In fact, for most users, it's a blowout win in AMD's favor, as you can see in our CPU Benchmarks Hierarchy. "
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-vs-intel-cpus

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Feb 22, 2021 07:59:46   #
Canisdirus
 
All digital post processing is AI.

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Feb 22, 2021 08:02:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
All digital post processing is AI.

How so?

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