Propane
Feb 19, 2021 12:18:00 #
cincykid wrote:
In Ohio tanks are good for 12 years & then must be inpected & rehabbed prior to returning them for use. There is a date stamped on tanks that gives this info.
That is true also in Pennsylvania. A few months ago I went to get a tank refilled for my outdoor grill and the guy told me he could not legally fill it because it was too old. He showed me the date on the tank indicating the date of manufacture. That cost me a few extra dollars, but in the long run I believe it saved me a lot more. Now, being aware of that date, I can make sure any tank I exchange will be a safer one.
Feb 19, 2021 12:40:53 #
If in doubt about anything you can always look up the OSHA Regulations for Federal or State. Keep in mind that if there is a state regulation it must be equal to or greater then the Federal regulation. OSHA rules do not apply to home owners but we can all take advice from what is been put in place for the work place an apply it to our daily lives.
A good example of this is CFR 1910.134 which is Respiratory Protection. For the work place you must have a physical and be fit tested for the respirator. For a home owner they can go into a box store and purchase a respirator to use around the home and it may fit or it may not, then you have to consider the type of filters for the type of work that it is being purchased for etc.
Also keep in mind that the fit of the respirator will change with major dental work, weight changes and they absolutely will not work with facial hair.
A good example of this is CFR 1910.134 which is Respiratory Protection. For the work place you must have a physical and be fit tested for the respirator. For a home owner they can go into a box store and purchase a respirator to use around the home and it may fit or it may not, then you have to consider the type of filters for the type of work that it is being purchased for etc.
Also keep in mind that the fit of the respirator will change with major dental work, weight changes and they absolutely will not work with facial hair.
Feb 19, 2021 12:51:20 #
I am no subject matter expert. I believe gases have various range of lower explosive limit to high explosive limit. above it or below it, perhaps no ignition, no explosion. but inside that range, dangerous. This issue is separate of dangers of inhalation, breathing etc. Some gases may be rated low force explosions but very likely strong enough to take a life.
If in doubt, concerned, suspect danger, perhaps call 911 from a safe, non-gaseous, environment. Do not consider a phone / cell phone as intrinsically safe to use in a gaseous environment.
True story, my wife's niece lost her home. Their propane tank for their grill, sitting on the deck, exploded. The deck served as additional fuel and helped ignite the house. They were able to get out, no injury, no deaths. They were blessed and fortunate. Insurance provided a new house, same site.
BE SAFE.
If in doubt, concerned, suspect danger, perhaps call 911 from a safe, non-gaseous, environment. Do not consider a phone / cell phone as intrinsically safe to use in a gaseous environment.
True story, my wife's niece lost her home. Their propane tank for their grill, sitting on the deck, exploded. The deck served as additional fuel and helped ignite the house. They were able to get out, no injury, no deaths. They were blessed and fortunate. Insurance provided a new house, same site.
BE SAFE.
Feb 19, 2021 14:07:15 #
marine73 wrote:
If in doubt about anything you can always look up ... (show quote)
Also need to be very careful where you store respirators. People all too often stored in same area with material qthey are to protect you from, a real NO NO!
Feb 19, 2021 15:03:50 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
In our country NOBODY will fill any tank unless it has a current inspection date stamped on the side. Dive tanks visual inspection every year, hydro-static test every two years (expensive hobby) and propane tanks every 10 years I think. No exceptions.
Feb 19, 2021 15:49:02 #
Canisdirus wrote:
It takes a lot more gas than folks realize to become a problem.
Not true, its gas air ratio that makes it ignite
Feb 19, 2021 15:51:42 #
marine73 wrote:
I taught compressed gas classes for years at my wo... (show quote)
Here in NY the date is checked and if the date is too old the tank is not refilled.
Feb 19, 2021 15:53:33 #
JBRIII wrote:
For whatever reason, natural gas, methane, has one of, if the, largest range of concentrations in air over which it will go boom. Something like 20 to 80%?. As a kid in Baltimore I saw the result. Someone lit a stove three blocks away and 3 row houses disappeared, seven in all burned out.
Natural gas is flammable between 5-15% ratio of gas to air. Less than 5% it will not ignite and over 15% it will not ignite. Hollywood exaggerates gas explosions.
Feb 19, 2021 16:05:37 #
Gasman57 wrote:
Natural gas is flammable between 5-15% ratio of gas to air. Less than 5% it will not ignite and over 15% it will not ignite. Hollywood exaggerates gas explosions.
I did not get my numbers from Hollywood, but where ever I did get them from was apparently wrong.
Thanks for correction;
Feb 19, 2021 17:10:38 #
JBRIII wrote:
I did not get my numbers from Hollywood, but where ever I did get them from was apparently wrong.
Thanks for correction;
Thanks for correction;
No problem. The Baltimore explosion wasn't a gas leak but a poor pressure problem. I worked for National Grid for 30 years and they were the gas utility in Boston.
Feb 19, 2021 17:48:02 #
Gasman57 wrote:
No problem. The Baltimore explosion wasn't a gas leak but a poor pressure problem. I worked for National Grid for 30 years and they were the gas utility in Boston.
Are we talking the same explosion: about 1958+/-?
Feb 19, 2021 19:15:18 #
[quote=JBRIII]Are we talking the same explosion:
I'm confusing the Baltimore event with the Boston Explosion of 10 or so years ago. My mistake.
I'm confusing the Baltimore event with the Boston Explosion of 10 or so years ago. My mistake.
Feb 20, 2021 10:53:27 #
Yes, we must use and handle propane bottles and other storage of it with effective precautions. The widespread use of propane continues as an alternate fuel.
Feb 22, 2021 01:14:20 #
quagmire
Loc: Greenwood,South Carolina
Make sure it has a triangle-shaped handle the old round ones are illegal now.
Feb 22, 2021 09:17:31 #
Thanks for info. Are you referring to the knob shape on the valve?
quagmire wrote:
Make sure it has a triangle-shaped handle the old round ones are illegal now.
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